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Have you read the executive order or the article? From the article: "agencies are directed to initiate adverse action proceedings against managers who continue
by flipgimble 6y ago
Have you read the executive order or the article?
From the article: "agencies are directed to initiate adverse action proceedings against managers who continue to hold CRT trainings"
This does not sound like a dispassionate funding policy change, more like an ideological purge of a set of ideas on which there is an ongoing debate across the country.
- choko 6y agoThe ideas in question are racist and have no place in government. CRT isn't simply about learning of the discrimination and suffering of certain groups, it's also about retribution and placing blame on people who literally had no part in the oppression in question, due to their race. Also, yes I read the EO. Did you?
- flipgimble 6y ago"ideas in question are racist" is presented without evidence or a convincing explanation. I agree that racism has no place in government, so this quote, among many, from the president is very troubling: "You have good genes, you know that, right? You have good genes. A lot of it is about the genes, isn't it, don't you believe? The racehorse theory. You think we're so different? You have good genes in Minnesota." Here is the video: https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1307124621389463553?s=20 https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1307124621389463553?s=20
- choko 6y agoAny ideology that places blame and responsibility on an entire group based on their race is racist. I believe in individual responsibly, not group responsibility and original sin - which according to CRT, is a form of white supremacy. I will not further address the comments by the president because they are hamfisted, poorly articulated, and off topic. You are obviously trying to shift this debate to be about the current administration rather than CRT.
- wavepruner 6y agoRace in this context refers to the action of racing, not the races of humans, or even horses. The only way this argument would make sense as a critique of Trump's supposed racism would be if you believed some races do _not_ have good genes. I doubt you believe this. I certainly don't.
- true_religion 6y agoSo in the broadest sense, all ethnicities have good genes, and all people probably have rich and vibrant cultures that are a credit to humanity. However, if someone in the US started an all white club to blandly talk about how great Caucasian genetics and culture is, then I would be very suspicious of them. They wouldn't even need white robes and pointy traditionalist wizard hats (symbolizing their respect for pre-chrisitian religions I am sure)...
- eesmith 6y agoDoes Rep. Ilhan Omar of Minnesota have good genes? Do you think Trump thinks she does? Who doesn't have good genes? Given the association between the eugenics movement and "good genes", Trump has a large negative association to overcome if he's trying to say something so anodyne.
- eesmith 6y agoThat's from the article. The EO does not include that quote. The author of that article is mischaracterizing CRT for ideological reasons.
- flipgimble 6y agoThat is a good point, I updated my comment attribute the quote more accurately.
- DenisM 6y ago> Have you read the executive order or the article? Please don't comment on whether someone read an article. "Did you even read the article? It mentions that" can be shortened to "The article mentions that." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html