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Death decreed over Zoom
- duxup 6y agoI wonder if there might be a dehumanizing effect on everyone involved, and maybe a lower level of seriousness overall. Is a witness possibly more willing to lie, exaggerate?
- pupdogg 6y agoTrend of using Zoom/variants seems to be following the progression of any similar type of conduit where unfamiliar use case eventually becomes the norm. For example, when texting/SMS took off in early 2000s, boyfriends and girlfriends started calling quits to their relationship via text, followed by husbands and wives decision to divorce. I won’t be surprised if there’s an emoji for such references nowadays ️. Oh the humans! We’ve definitely done a lot of physical evolving since inception...but bulk of our social evolution has seemed to have happened over the past 100 years.
- lioeters 6y agoThere is a Unicode symbol for divorce, but only Samsung has implemented an emoji for it. https://emojipedia.org/divorce-symbol/ https://emojipedia.org/divorce-symbol/
- smegger001 6y agolooking at it without being told I would never guess that is what it means. I would have a hard time guessing what that ment even in context.
- skipnup 6y agoI guess it mostly makes sense in a family tree, not as part of a text message
- justinclift 6y agoLooks like handcuffs. Maybe they should have used it as the marriage symbol instead? :)
- ydnaclementine 6y agoZoom this, zoom that. Is zoom paying journalists to name drop their product everywhere? Kinda like how ESPN gets "Twitter comments", instead of calling it general internet comments
- scarface74 6y agoDo most people say “let me look on a search engine” or “let me Google it”?
- edoceo 6y agoDDG: if you can't duck it then ...
- gowld 6y agoen.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic_trademark
- dylan604 6y agoIs that the best worst thing or the worst best thing to happen to your company?
- p1necone 6y agoIt probably means your company was successful enough that you can retire and do whatever you like for the rest of your life. Would be a good thing for me, although probably a bad thing for the company as a whole. I'd call it a best worst thing - one of those problems where it's bad, but the only way to have the problem is to be really successful.
- ldarby 6y agoIt looks like it really is Zoom in the screenshots (but yes if it wasn't Zoom and someone called it Zoom, I think that would be terrible).
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- microcolonel 6y agoDoes it really matter if your death sentence is read over a video call or a phone call or in a room?
- mcphage 6y agoI would expect it to matter to Zoom.
- imgabe 6y agoOn the one hand it shouldn't matter. The facts of the case are the facts of the case. If those facts warrant the death penalty then that should be the case regardless of the medium through which those facts are presented. On the other hand, humans aren't rational and they might change their decision by seeing another human in person vs seeing them on a screen, even if the facts are the same. Since it has the capability to affect the outcome, for fairness it should be the same for every case. Either do all cases over Zoom or none. Otherwise you might have some people arbitrarily assigned the death penalty when they might not have otherwise or vice versa. The better solution would be to do away with the death penalty altogether since such a dire outcome shouldn't be implemented by an inherently flawed and fallible system.
- MayeulC 6y agoI know it would matter to me. That would at least help make the case that the person being condemned is a human being, not a few pixels on a screen, nor a number in a system.
- kazinator 6y agoModern militaries use systems whereby they directly kill people who are represented as pixels on a screen. So, what is a little digital sentencing.
- kube-system 6y agoUsually governments give more rights and privileges to citizens than they do to enemy combatants.
- tyingq 6y agoFor me, this kind of thing is still very surreal. I'm old enough that I grew up in a "not connected" world. We used pay phones and land lines. It was considered rude to do anything significant over the phone. I'm still having trouble with people being laid off over a video call. A capital trial with the death sentence being a possibility happening on a video chat just seems like I've jumped into some dystopian sci-fi.
- Alekhine 6y agoIf we're being honest, you have. The future is here, just not evenly distributed.
- kohtatsu 6y agoDystopia isn't guaranteed; don't go gentle into that good night. Highly recommend reading "On Tyranny", it's a great small, pertinent book for $10 at most book stores. Edit: to be clear China's social credit system is extremely dystopian to me and is already taking shape, but I trust most/all democratic societies (including US) to fend it off.
- aaron695 6y agoPretty sure Governors delayed or not delayed executions over the phone at the eleventh hour pretty regularly if Hollywood has taught me anything. But for some reason I also see this as different.
- tyingq 6y agoThat's a good call-out. People did use phones for significant things when there wasn't a reasonable alternative. But you wouldn't break up a relationship over the phone, for example.
- sneak 6y agoThe United States military does this dozens of times each and every week, and they don’t even bother with the trial. It’s public knowledge, but somehow still isn’t “news”. https://theintercept.com/drone-papers/ https://theintercept.com/drone-papers/ I suppose they use a different videoconferencing system than Zoom, however.