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> It doesn't need a shiny interface ... Did you ask the users of the system or you just assume they don't want one?

by brabel 6y ago

DoingIsLearning 6y ago
Arguably 'the user' in this case is a highly parallelized multi-core server. :) The author is looking at it from an 'everything is an App' world, without the domain knowledge of Meteorology or HPC calculations. Implying that a lack of 'user interference' equalls 'bad software' is a very uninformed claim. Equally misplaced outrage with trying to compare VSCode, from a company with 143 billion in revenue, with (often decade old) EHR systems which are decided 'on a budget' by Heads of clinical departments (AND Purchasing/Finance) with little to no input from actual 'end users'.
- brabel 6y ago
  Some of these fairly unknown systems that are "terrible" enterprisey make many billions of dollars in sales, VS Code makes nothing directly as it's free (MS gets good PR for publishing it, but it's extremely hard to put a number on how much it's worth for them). Implying that just because MS makes VSC and it makes 143 billion in revenue, it must be much better/nicer than EHR/ systems made by somewhat smaller companies (still, some pretty huge ones make shitty software, like SAP with over 50-billion income) whose whole income come from such system sales is quite irrational of your part.
- yodelshady 6y ago
  The user is me, and you put a layer in between me and the mathematics that I need to verify when you prise the Fortran source from my cold dead hands :-).
etangent 6y ago
> Did you ask the users of the system or you just assume they don't want one? I'm pretty sure the "users" of the system are mostly programmers who write batch jobs.
- brabel 6y ago
  I would hope the users of a system designed to predict the weather are actual meteorologists.
  - pracer 6y ago
    You better hopw that they are programmers. Meteorologists provide the algos and calculations, programmers (or if you prefer, scientists programmers) then implement it. Scientists focused on science don't have the time to learn good code skills (that's a fact) as there are too many maths and knowledge already in their fields. would not be better if they focus on the science itself?

> It doesn't need a shiny interface ... Did you ask the users of the system or you just assume they don't want one?

by brabel 6y ago

> It doesn't need a shiny interface ... Did you ask the users of the system or you just assume they don't want one?

Arguably 'the user' in this case is a highly parallelized multi-core server. :) The author is looking at it from an 'everything is an App' world, without the domain knowledge of Meteorology or HPC calculations. Implying that a lack of 'user interference' equalls 'bad software' is a very uninformed claim. Equally misplaced outrage with trying to compare VSCode, from a company with 143 billion in revenue, with (often decade old) EHR systems which are decided 'on a budget' by Heads of clinical departments (AND Purchasing/Finance) with little to no input from actual 'end users'.

brabel 6y ago
Some of these fairly unknown systems that are "terrible" enterprisey make many billions of dollars in sales, VS Code makes nothing directly as it's free (MS gets good PR for publishing it, but it's extremely hard to put a number on how much it's worth for them). Implying that just because MS makes VSC and it makes 143 billion in revenue, it must be much better/nicer than EHR/ systems made by somewhat smaller companies (still, some pretty huge ones make shitty software, like SAP with over 50-billion income) whose whole income come from such system sales is quite irrational of your part.
yodelshady 6y ago
The user is me, and you put a layer in between me and the mathematics that I need to verify when you prise the Fortran source from my cold dead hands :-).

etangent 6y ago

> Did you ask the users of the system or you just assume they don't want one? I'm pretty sure the "users" of the system are mostly programmers who write batch jobs.

brabel 6y ago
I would hope the users of a system designed to predict the weather are actual meteorologists.
- pracer 6y ago
  You better hopw that they are programmers. Meteorologists provide the algos and calculations, programmers (or if you prefer, scientists programmers) then implement it. Scientists focused on science don't have the time to learn good code skills (that's a fact) as there are too many maths and knowledge already in their fields. would not be better if they focus on the science itself?