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You know what Joe is? Joe is that fun friend I had in high school that I could just shoot the shit with. He's that dude I got high with in university and discus

You know what Joe is? Joe is that fun friend I had in high school that I could just shoot the shit with. He's that dude I got high with in university and discussed all manner of topics with. Joe is the person who in my professional world, does not (and possibly cannot) exist. I miss the Joes in my life, and I think that's what originally led to me picking up his podcast. Sometimes I'm just tired of all the engineering discussions and want to enjoy something _else_. I didn't listen to him because of some deep seated desire to push against "the left's" control of speech, or because I thought he was a particularly polished interviewer. No, I could tell from the beginning he was way too into pseudoscience and that a lot of his guests were not well informed. But again, it was something different, and something interesting to think about. Something that in my day to day I would never consider, even if what's espoused on his podcast is complete bologna. It's almost a form of creative thinking. Every now and then, however, he would say things that didn't sit well with me. But I liked Joe, and I could ignore a few small misgivings, we're all human after all, right? However, as time passed, these small things kept piling up. Like when he had a Native lawyer on who wanted to speak about the atrocities committed against her people and all Joe wanted to do was grill her about what great bloodthirsty warriors the Comanche were. Or when he asked Owen Smith what the benefit of having a woman of color in the Vice President's seat would be. Eventually, after all the misinformation about corona started, I just couldn't look away from the pile. It had just gotten too big. And given the possible seriousness of the situation, I think it's reasonable to hold people like Joe responsible for the misinformation they spread. And for me, he failed. I still have a soft spot on my heart for Joe, but I just can't listen to him anymore.

0xy 6y ago
What misinformation about corona did he spread? It's my understanding that governments all around the world and the WHO were also responsible for spreading massive misinformation at the start of the pandemic. For example, WHO were vehemently against border closures with China and they parroted the CCP's lies of no community transmission in late January (despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary). Even Dr Fauci worked hard to spread the misinformation (he knew it was false at the time) that masks were not protection against the virus. He later admitted he spread this misinformation in order to protect supplies for healthcare staff.
- Naac 6y ago
  Could you provide sources for these statements?
  - 0xy 6y ago
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-05/who-coronavirus-update-china-travel/11930752 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-05/who-coronavirus-updat... https://www.businessinsider.com/fauci-doesnt-regret-advising-against-masks-early-in-pandemic-2020-7?r=US&IR=T https://www.businessinsider.com/fauci-doesnt-regret-advising... https://twitter.com/who/status/1217043229427761152 https://twitter.com/who/status/1217043229427761152
    - unityByFreedom 6y ago
      The BI article does not say Fauci spread misinformation, > "I don't regret anything I said then because in the context of the time in which I said it, it was correct. We were told in our task force meetings that we have a serious problem with the lack of PPEs and masks for the health providers who are putting themselves in harm's way every day to take care of sick people"
      - 0xy 6y ago
        He told people not to wear masks because they were not effective. This statement is patently false and he knew it to be false at the time he made it. Since then, he has made opposite claims about masks.
        unityByFreedom 6y ago
        It doesn't say that either, > "When it became clear that we could get the infection could be spread by asymptomatic carriers who don't know they're infected, that made it very clear that we had to strongly recommend masks," he said. "And also, it soon became clear that we had enough protective equipment and that cloth masks and homemade masks were as good as masks that you would buy from surgical supply stores," Fauci added. "So in the context of when we were not strongly recommending it, it was the correct thing."

0xy 6y ago

What misinformation about corona did he spread? It's my understanding that governments all around the world and the WHO were also responsible for spreading massive misinformation at the start of the pandemic. For example, WHO were vehemently against border closures with China and they parroted the CCP's lies of no community transmission in late January (despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary). Even Dr Fauci worked hard to spread the misinformation (he knew it was false at the time) that masks were not protection against the virus. He later admitted he spread this misinformation in order to protect supplies for healthcare staff.

Naac 6y ago
Could you provide sources for these statements?
- 0xy 6y ago
  https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-05/who-coronavirus-update-china-travel/11930752 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-05/who-coronavirus-updat... https://www.businessinsider.com/fauci-doesnt-regret-advising-against-masks-early-in-pandemic-2020-7?r=US&IR=T https://www.businessinsider.com/fauci-doesnt-regret-advising... https://twitter.com/who/status/1217043229427761152 https://twitter.com/who/status/1217043229427761152
  - unityByFreedom 6y ago
    The BI article does not say Fauci spread misinformation, > "I don't regret anything I said then because in the context of the time in which I said it, it was correct. We were told in our task force meetings that we have a serious problem with the lack of PPEs and masks for the health providers who are putting themselves in harm's way every day to take care of sick people"
    - 0xy 6y ago
      He told people not to wear masks because they were not effective. This statement is patently false and he knew it to be false at the time he made it. Since then, he has made opposite claims about masks.
      - unityByFreedom 6y ago
        It doesn't say that either, > "When it became clear that we could get the infection could be spread by asymptomatic carriers who don't know they're infected, that made it very clear that we had to strongly recommend masks," he said. "And also, it soon became clear that we had enough protective equipment and that cloth masks and homemade masks were as good as masks that you would buy from surgical supply stores," Fauci added. "So in the context of when we were not strongly recommending it, it was the correct thing."