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JetBrains products _are_ pretty much the best. I think Android Studio + Kotlin is the best, most impressive IDE experience I've ever had. Mostly because Android

JetBrains products _are_ pretty much the best. I think Android Studio + Kotlin is the best, most impressive IDE experience I've ever had. Mostly because Android Development in general is kinda hard, and Android Studio cleans it all up so nicely for you. It really outshines XCode in this regard. I've never used CLion but I really want to. That being said, I think it's clear that VSCode is, and will remain, dominant. First: its free. Second: it's simpler. That alone is enough to make any product dominant. The fact that's it free, simple, and pretty much just works is pretty stunning. VSCode for Unity Game Development kinda shocks me how you can literally install the IDE while the game is running and successfully attach a debugger. It's pretty wild how reliable it is. I'm not a VSCode fan boy. I find that it lags on my PC sometimes. I kinda hate the "notifications" that it pops up with. And I don't like the auto update mechanism or the Welcome screen, but overall VSCode (or Codium) is clearly the next level of IDE. I think Microsoft is going to build some really wild stuff on top of VSCode and Github. I think there gonna come up with way to leverage the amount of data they can mine out of github repos to write code for you. I'm pretty sure that's a big reason why they bought github.

throwaway8941 6y ago
If you do decide to get a clion license, cppcast.com has a discount code for personal license which shaves 25% off the first year. I won't post it here, just fish it out of the podcast, it's very nice.
mycall 6y ago
Today, Microsoft received an exclusive license for GPT-3. It is already known that it can write code if asked in natural language declaratively (in certain cases). I could see an integration with github's code (specifically retrained with) and see some really interesting stuff.
devilduck 6y ago
JetBrains makes some pretty great software overall, and I absolutely love DataGrip, but they aren't without flaws. I find them to be bulky and full of features I will probably never use. It's preferable to have a decent base and add features with plugins, for me.
978e4721a 6y ago
Don't forget it cam sync your configuration or let you sync it yourself as a file.
aramix 6y ago
They did something already https://github.com/features/codespaces https://github.com/features/codespaces
- inglor 6y ago
  I just wanted to weigh in that I am in the codespaces beta and it's working quite nicely! The experience is exactly what you'd expect, all the VSCode extensions mostly work and development is pretty smooth. The only bad part is that I (ironically) wish it felt more like an "App" and not a browser tab.
weinzierl 6y ago
> I've never used CLion but I really want to. CLion user here and I think it is still behind IntelliJ and I wish JetBrains would put more focus to the product. That being said I believe it is way better for C/C++ and Rust development than any alternative that exists at the moment.
barrenko 6y ago
Definitely. Fedora + Android Studio + Kotlin is bonkers simple, clean and usable.
mcdevilkiller 6y ago
Try Rider. I feel like it has all the usual JetBrains IDE features but it's faster than IDEA and the Unity integration is superb.
0-_-0 6y ago
>I think there gonna come up with way to leverage the amount of data they can mine out of github repos to write code for you. Somebody already did that in a plugin, trained a neural network on Github code to provide autocomplete for Visual Studio Code. I'm using it and it's great! https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=TabNine.tabnine-vscode https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=TabNine....
andrekandre 6y ago
> I've never used CLion but I really want to. its definitely great for rust and pretty good for swift development too (imo ^^)
renox 6y ago
> I've never used CLion but I really want to. Well, it has the best indexing of C++ I've seen but it's also the slowest IDE I've used (I've stopped using it when it froze showing a blank page for many minutes when I was compiling, since then it has improved, it no longer do this, but it's still very slow). What's 'funny' is that all C++ IDE suck: CLion is awfully slow, VSCode likes to use >29GB of resident RAM if you let it open too long (no Vim isn't an IDE, it's a text editor which you can use to build an IDE yourself..) its indexing is quite bad most of the time, and also slow (enough that when I double click on something to get to the definition, I usually have the time to find/grep the source and open it myself before it has displayed the target :-()

throwaway8941 6y ago

If you do decide to get a clion license, cppcast.com has a discount code for personal license which shaves 25% off the first year. I won't post it here, just fish it out of the podcast, it's very nice.

mycall 6y ago

Today, Microsoft received an exclusive license for GPT-3. It is already known that it can write code if asked in natural language declaratively (in certain cases). I could see an integration with github's code (specifically retrained with) and see some really interesting stuff.

devilduck 6y ago

JetBrains makes some pretty great software overall, and I absolutely love DataGrip, but they aren't without flaws. I find them to be bulky and full of features I will probably never use. It's preferable to have a decent base and add features with plugins, for me.

978e4721a 6y ago

Don't forget it cam sync your configuration or let you sync it yourself as a file.

aramix 6y ago

They did something already https://github.com/features/codespaces https://github.com/features/codespaces

inglor 6y ago
I just wanted to weigh in that I am in the codespaces beta and it's working quite nicely! The experience is exactly what you'd expect, all the VSCode extensions mostly work and development is pretty smooth. The only bad part is that I (ironically) wish it felt more like an "App" and not a browser tab.

weinzierl 6y ago

> I've never used CLion but I really want to. CLion user here and I think it is still behind IntelliJ and I wish JetBrains would put more focus to the product. That being said I believe it is way better for C/C++ and Rust development than any alternative that exists at the moment.

barrenko 6y ago

Definitely. Fedora + Android Studio + Kotlin is bonkers simple, clean and usable.

mcdevilkiller 6y ago

Try Rider. I feel like it has all the usual JetBrains IDE features but it's faster than IDEA and the Unity integration is superb.

0-_-0 6y ago

>I think there gonna come up with way to leverage the amount of data they can mine out of github repos to write code for you. Somebody already did that in a plugin, trained a neural network on Github code to provide autocomplete for Visual Studio Code. I'm using it and it's great! https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=TabNine.tabnine-vscode https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=TabNine....

andrekandre 6y ago

> I've never used CLion but I really want to. its definitely great for rust and pretty good for swift development too (imo ^^)

renox 6y ago

> I've never used CLion but I really want to. Well, it has the best indexing of C++ I've seen but it's also the slowest IDE I've used (I've stopped using it when it froze showing a blank page for many minutes when I was compiling, since then it has improved, it no longer do this, but it's still very slow). What's 'funny' is that all C++ IDE suck: CLion is awfully slow, VSCode likes to use >29GB of resident RAM if you let it open too long (no Vim isn't an IDE, it's a text editor which you can use to build an IDE yourself..) its indexing is quite bad most of the time, and also slow (enough that when I double click on something to get to the definition, I usually have the time to find/grep the source and open it myself before it has displayed the target :-()