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Your argument is worthy of discussion, which is why I am continuing the discussion, but I don't think it is bias on my part or yours as far as I can tell. Yes,
by eggy 6y ago
Your argument is worthy of discussion, which is why I am continuing the discussion, but I don't think it is bias on my part or yours as far as I can tell. Yes, the general definition of "accident" seems to fit it in the manner you mean, but let me illustrate why I initially made the assertion that it was not an accident. You stated:
> Yeah, we call that an accident. Just like hitting someone with your car can be an unintended consequence of driving.
I would add to your statement above to make it fit the comparison to the actual incident a bit better:
> Yeah, we call that an accident. Just like hitting someone with your car can be an unintended consequence of driving a getaway car during a bank robbery.
I wouldn't use the word "accident" here. I would say someone "tragically" died when a criminal was driving away from the scene of a robbery. Of the 38,000 people who die in car "accidents" in the U.S. each year, if 30,000 of those were getaway cars or tied to criminal activity, and not just "accidents" I think there would be a different response to the scenario I just presented.
Accidental death benefits from the insurance industry exclude death caused by illegal activities, but I think this means by the person committing the illegal acts, so maybe not such a good example. I don't know.
If someone chokes someone, so that they can render them unconscious to rob them or arrest them, and the choked out person dies during the process, would you use the word "accident" in reporting the incident?
If this university/hospital hack was committed by completely naive hackers, they were still committing intentional harm to a business that affects the employees and others doing business with them. It doesn't take much imagination to figure that by using ransomware in this incident, you may affect people's lives negatively without the actual death that occurred. They might have to lay off a worker or two to cover the loss, not buy essential equipment for the university or hospital that year or more, etc.
I'll leave off here, and say you had a "convincing" argument from a concise dictionary definition, but I wouldn't sling that word so nonchalantly in applying it to this woman's death. Perhaps I misread the tone of your "Yeah, we call that and accident.", but who's we?