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> Caché, cachet I'll be honest I have no idea what the difference is between these two.

• arcticbull 6y ago
  Ones French, and is the past tense of the verb cacher, “to hide”
  • MiroF 6y ago
    No, I meant the pronunciation!
    • arcticbull 6y ago
      Haha it’s should be the same - but maybe that’s because I learned French in Canada.
      • Galanwe 6y ago
        It's different, though maybe native English speakers will struggle because there is no equivalent of "é". "et", "è", "ai" are all pronounced the same. Similar to the "e" in "best". For "é" and "er" I struggle to find a definite English equivalent sound. Sometimes "a" is close, but it depends on the accent of the speaker. Maybe the best example is just the last "é" when pronouncing "Beyoncé" or "fiancée"
        • MiroF 6y ago
          > "e" in "best". But I pronounce chachet nothing like the e in best. It seems much more similar to a french "é" This is how I pronounce it: https://www.google.com/search?q=cachet+pronunciation&oq=cachet+p&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j69i57j0l6.1266j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 https://www.google.com/search?q=cachet+pronunciation&oq=cach...
          • Galanwe 6y ago
            Then you don't pronounce it well :D The link you gave me looks like someone with a strong English accent trying to pronounce French (which make sense for an AI)
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            • hombre_fatal 6y ago
              No, it's someone speaking the anglicised pronunciation which is correct in English just like for the other 1000s of borrowed French words in English. Though you'll be happy to know that where I grew up in Texas, everyone tried to pronounce "croissant" the French way when (and only when) ordering one at a deli counter. But we weren't far from Paris, Texas.
              • Galanwe 6y ago
                I did not say the audio clip pronunciation is wrong. I said it was pronounced with an English accent, which bounces a bit the vowels, though the sound of "è" is correct. What I said is incorrect, is the parent poster saying it sounds closer to "é" than the sound of "best". If you can't tell the difference, too bad for you, but that doesn't make you right. "è" (or "et" in French) is pronounced /ɛ/. Wikipedia will confirm that this is indeed the same sound as in "best" (/ˈbɛst/). https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/best https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/best "é" is not the same sound. It's pronounced /e/ like in "fiancée" (/fiˈɑnseɪ/) https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/fianc%C3%A9e https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/fianc%C3%A9e > anglicised pronunciation which is correct in English All the links I have posted are for the anglicised version of the French words.
                • MiroF 6y ago
                  > I said it was pronounced with an English accent, Cachet is an english word in this context, so how could the English pronunciation be incorrect? > "è" (or "et" in French) is pronounced /ɛ/. Wikipedia will confirm that this is indeed the same sound as in "best" Yep. > "é" is not the same sound. It's pronounced /e/ like in "fiancée" Also yep. Nobody is disputing you on those. The problem is when you're saying that the english pronunciation for an english word is incorrect." It can't be. Cachet, in this context, is an english word and this is the english pronunciation.
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