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Rogan is an individualist. By this I mean he supports telling people to take control of their own lives, better themselves, hear different ideas and make their
by seibelj 6y ago
Rogan is an individualist. By this I mean he supports telling people to take control of their own lives, better themselves, hear different ideas and make their own opinions. Enjoying combat sports such as Boxing, MMA, and Football means you approve of people making their own conscious decision to potentially scramble their brain. I also enjoy these sports, and if someone wants to scramble their brain playing football or getting their skull bashed in by a fist, that’s their decision and they can accept my entertainment dollar.
The concept of individualism is anathema to many on the left. In general, they want everyone to see themselves as part of a collective, blame society (or just “someone else”) when they have a problem, and expect the government to provide with sustenance cradle to grave. I’m not saying this is necessarily bad - but someone with this belief system will not approve of someone whose an individualist that advocates for personal responsibility, relying on one’s own skills, and not expecting society to put a band aid on every boo boo one receives.
There is also a belief in “toxic masculinity” which is hard to define, but beating the shit out of someone else in a ring probably triggers some people to see toxicity. However a lot of males need this sort of outlet for aggression, and by saying “males” need something specific it probably also triggers a lot of people who reject concepts of inherent male and female traits and major differences between the genders in preferences based on sex alone.
- tmpz22 6y agoYou missed the important takeaway, that undeniably the best outcome includes a mix of individualism AND collectivism. The UN, Red Cross, US Military, a billion other examples of societal good stemming from collective institutions exist and they cannot be ignored when listing the merits of individualism.
- seibelj 6y agoI agree there is a healthy balance. But when trying to analyze why Rogan is extremely popular with a mostly male audience, and the major left wing talking heads completely ignore him or react very negatively, we need to assess the values of the political left in regards to what Rogan represents. That was the point of the article and also my comment.
- Mirioron 6y agoThe problem is that at least two of the things you mentioned would be heavily disputed in being "societal good". The UN and US military have both done some incredibly screwed up stuff.
- happytoexplain 6y agoThis is incredibly uncharitable and simplistic attack on "many on the left".
- seibelj 6y agoWell, what is your explanation for why the mainstream left ignores / hates him? This is my explanation.
- foogazi 6y agoUnclear what you mean the mainstream left ignores or hates Joe Rogan Does the mainstream “anything” care about JRE ? He is a successful podcaster, not in the mainstream (and when he gets there he will be accused of selling out anyway) Should CNN, MSNBC or Fox have him on as a commentator or discuss his views?
- seibelj 6y agoDid you read the linked article? That is the entire question posed by the article - "Why is Joe Rogan despised by the left?"
- therealdrag0 6y agoI know a lot of people on the left who listen to and like JRE.
- verylittlemeat 6y agoHonestly the media hating on Rogan isn't more complicated than getting eyeballs and ad revenue. "How X makes you fat" or "Why X is more dangerous than you think" where X is something common and popular. In this case X is just Joe Rogan instead of coffee or chocolate.
- edoceo 6y agoI had to downvote because of this: > many on the left. In general, they want everyone to see themselves as part of a collective, blame society (or just “someone else”) when they have a problem, and expect the government to provide with sustenance cradle to grave I'm on "the left" but I think your viewpoint here is too extreme. Individual responsibility is very important but society at-large should also help : taxes for healthcare, elder-care, infrastructure, education. I think we're called democratic-socialist now
- goldforever 6y agoYou nailed it!