> * What is "tracking"? Is recording a server log tracking? What if it only records the pathname? What about the "visitor counter" GIFs from the 90s?* I'd sett

> * What is "tracking"? Is recording a server log tracking? What if it only records the pathname? What about the "visitor counter" GIFs from the 90s?* I'd settle for personally / uniquely identifiable information as tracking. > WhatsApp, Telegram, and Signal do that too with their read receipts. Is that tracking? Why? Or why not? 1. There's an opt-out. 2. It is clear as a day that the other side can see when you've read the message. 3. Again, services consumed with consent. > ...my point was you need to clearly define what you mean with that. Agreed. I think PII (personally identifiable information) is a good start. > ... it's all very easy to make vague proposals when you're in the opposition Some organizations have been working long and hard over privacy issues online. There have been very well-defined, valid, and solid proposals from them. We'll see eventually what comes of those. > ...need to actually start enacting workable realistic laws that take all the various legitimate interests in account things get much harder. Agreed. You'd love this talk by B Schneier: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3NJ-Ow2Lvg?t=39m39s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3NJ-Ow2Lvg?t=39m39s