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No, but it honestly probably would have been if the Central Powers had won WWI. American entry into that war was made possible the sinking of the Lusitania, whi

No, but it honestly probably would have been if the Central Powers had won WWI. American entry into that war was made possible the sinking of the Lusitania, which was secretly carrying war munitions. There is some evidence that the British enabled the event although this is admittedly a minoritarian view among historians (last I checked). It was undoubtedly beneficial for the Allied Powers though. The British Empire are pretty much the "bad guys" of world history insofar as such a designation makes sense. The punitive measures they arranged after WWI were directly responsible for the rise of the Nazi party in Weimar Germany.

literallycancer 6y ago
Yeah, life would be just peachy if half of Europe lived under the Germans or the Ottoman Empire. What? Why do people from large countries act like no one else exists? Would you like to live in a country run by someone who forces their language and culture on you?
- platinumrad 6y ago
  What makes you think the Central Powers would have permanently occupied the nations it defeated when the Allied Powers did not? What makes you think Imperial Germany would have forced its language and culture on e.g. France when it would have been happy to simply install a friendly government? WWI was not WWII. There was nothing uniquely evil about the Central Powers.
  - literallycancer 6y ago
    I'm not talking about territories invaded during WW1 like France or Belgium. I'm talking about new countries emerging from the collapsing empires. The people have lived there the whole time, they just didn't have a nation state of their own. Czechoslovakia, Poland, Romania, Yugoslavia, Greece, Armenia. The Kurds are still fighting to have their own country today. You get the picture. Finland, Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia, Belarus and Ukraine emerged from the collapse of the Russian Empire. All of these people didn't work towards independence by accident. There were good reasons to, depending on whose empire you lived in, the ruling group was given preferential treatment, or maybe the minorities would be penalized for using their own language. Higher education and government services would often be provided exclusively in the ruling nation's language. >WWI was not WWII. There was nothing uniquely evil about the Central Powers. The Armenian genocide sounds bad enough to me. And of course these things happened even in the Entente empires, it's just easier to declare independence from an empire that just lost and can't do anything about it.
- bobbyz 6y ago
  How did we go from 'more lenient war indemnities' and 'false flag operations are bad' to German and Ottoman occupation?

literallycancer 6y ago

Yeah, life would be just peachy if half of Europe lived under the Germans or the Ottoman Empire. What? Why do people from large countries act like no one else exists? Would you like to live in a country run by someone who forces their language and culture on you?

platinumrad 6y ago
What makes you think the Central Powers would have permanently occupied the nations it defeated when the Allied Powers did not? What makes you think Imperial Germany would have forced its language and culture on e.g. France when it would have been happy to simply install a friendly government? WWI was not WWII. There was nothing uniquely evil about the Central Powers.
- literallycancer 6y ago
  I'm not talking about territories invaded during WW1 like France or Belgium. I'm talking about new countries emerging from the collapsing empires. The people have lived there the whole time, they just didn't have a nation state of their own. Czechoslovakia, Poland, Romania, Yugoslavia, Greece, Armenia. The Kurds are still fighting to have their own country today. You get the picture. Finland, Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia, Belarus and Ukraine emerged from the collapse of the Russian Empire. All of these people didn't work towards independence by accident. There were good reasons to, depending on whose empire you lived in, the ruling group was given preferential treatment, or maybe the minorities would be penalized for using their own language. Higher education and government services would often be provided exclusively in the ruling nation's language. >WWI was not WWII. There was nothing uniquely evil about the Central Powers. The Armenian genocide sounds bad enough to me. And of course these things happened even in the Entente empires, it's just easier to declare independence from an empire that just lost and can't do anything about it.
bobbyz 6y ago
How did we go from 'more lenient war indemnities' and 'false flag operations are bad' to German and Ottoman occupation?