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Well, I'd argue about the music. The chiptune music from SID and YM has aged very well, while Amiga sounds horrbile without FM synth and 8-bit 11kHz samples. A

Well, I'd argue about the music. The chiptune music from SID and YM has aged very well, while Amiga sounds horrbile without FM synth and 8-bit 11kHz samples. Also memory was much better organized than Amiga - without the speed penalty. And the simplicity of Shifter (the "GPU") allowed for really awsome 'beyond the dream' hacks, which were unavaliable on Amiga due to much more capable - but limited in 'hacking' video chip. And then the first upgrade - Atari STE - amazes today with full control 8-channel 50kHz MODs... While mc68k CPU stayed at 8MHz!

bbarnett 6y ago
At it again, thorianus! Spreading anti-amiga propaganda, lies, all pure, devilish, unvarnished lies! I will follow you down the ages, through age extension tech, uploading of consciousness, to the eventual universe spanning one mind! Always I will appear, always I will prevent your foolish, unjust and untrue claims from spreading unchecked. Amiga is better ; she is the best. Your Atari smells of milk!! Amigas rule! (what part of early computing culture did not have inane fan wars?)
gallier2 6y ago
Atari STE had 2 channels 8 bit DAC à 25kHz on DMA. It was the Falcon who had incredible sound capacity with its matrix channel mixer and DSP.
- Sodaware 6y ago
  I'd love to own a Falcon, but the prices on eBay make my eyes water.
- thorianus 6y ago
  Well, that's the HW. As with video, the 16-bits went on further than just mere hardware limits. When we talk software mixing, STE maxed out CPU at 8 channels 50kHz, here's an example: http://yerzmyey.i-demo.pl/YERZMYEY-Octopush_ATARI_STe.mp3 http://yerzmyey.i-demo.pl/YERZMYEY-Octopush_ATARI_STe.mp3 Even plain 520 ST can do a lot on this YM chip. Amiga 500 on the other had could a bit of this but only with 12kHz samples, and no volume control per channel, also those pesky filters. Amiga 1200/4000 could do same - as per much faster CPU, but... they still left the old audio 8-bit chip in it :/
  - alexisread 6y ago
    There's a package EPSS for the STE which allows using its 8 channel DMA as a software synth, at the same time as running other midi channels in Cubase. Makes for a very tidy DAW: https://youtu.be/OlspnqVcJho https://youtu.be/OlspnqVcJho Other packages (DBE tracker?) allow the STE to play 32channel mods albeit not at 50Khz
  - egypturnash 6y ago
    All Amigas had a 6-bit volume control for each individual sound channel. All Amigas except the A1000 could turn the high-pass filter off, and pretty much everything tended to do this.

bbarnett 6y ago

At it again, thorianus! Spreading anti-amiga propaganda, lies, all pure, devilish, unvarnished lies! I will follow you down the ages, through age extension tech, uploading of consciousness, to the eventual universe spanning one mind! Always I will appear, always I will prevent your foolish, unjust and untrue claims from spreading unchecked. Amiga is better ; she is the best. Your Atari smells of milk!! Amigas rule! (what part of early computing culture did not have inane fan wars?)

gallier2 6y ago

Atari STE had 2 channels 8 bit DAC à 25kHz on DMA. It was the Falcon who had incredible sound capacity with its matrix channel mixer and DSP.

Sodaware 6y ago
I'd love to own a Falcon, but the prices on eBay make my eyes water.
thorianus 6y ago
Well, that's the HW. As with video, the 16-bits went on further than just mere hardware limits. When we talk software mixing, STE maxed out CPU at 8 channels 50kHz, here's an example: http://yerzmyey.i-demo.pl/YERZMYEY-Octopush_ATARI_STe.mp3 http://yerzmyey.i-demo.pl/YERZMYEY-Octopush_ATARI_STe.mp3 Even plain 520 ST can do a lot on this YM chip. Amiga 500 on the other had could a bit of this but only with 12kHz samples, and no volume control per channel, also those pesky filters. Amiga 1200/4000 could do same - as per much faster CPU, but... they still left the old audio 8-bit chip in it :/
- alexisread 6y ago
  There's a package EPSS for the STE which allows using its 8 channel DMA as a software synth, at the same time as running other midi channels in Cubase. Makes for a very tidy DAW: https://youtu.be/OlspnqVcJho https://youtu.be/OlspnqVcJho Other packages (DBE tracker?) allow the STE to play 32channel mods albeit not at 50Khz
- egypturnash 6y ago
  All Amigas had a 6-bit volume control for each individual sound channel. All Amigas except the A1000 could turn the high-pass filter off, and pretty much everything tended to do this.