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Per the CDC, the 200k number is an underestimate of premature deaths due to COVID: > Total predicted number of excess deaths since 2/1/2020 across the United S

Per the CDC, the 200k number is an underestimate of premature deaths due to COVID: > Total predicted number of excess deaths since 2/1/2020 across the United States: 201,917 - 262,877 https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm Statistically, COVID has caused roughly a quarter million more people to die than we expected to die of other causes. That said, your point about the age of the deceased is a good one. There was something particularly tragic about the death of a young, drafted soldier. That doesn't take away from the vast numbers of parents and grandparents who have died in the United States from this pandemic, though.

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verdverm 6y ago
How do you know the difference between Covid stats and excess deaths are from COVID and not another cause? There are cases of people not seeking medical help because they were told non-essential visits were to be avoided.
- samcheng 6y ago
  There are also fewer e.g. auto traffic deaths due to the lockdown. These are all secondary effects given the number of deaths that mentioned COVID in the coroner's report. (See the headline article.) All of it is due to the pandemic, directly or indirectly, right? There were no other significant national fatality-related events in that timeline, thank goodness. You'll see that the death rate is remarkably predictable over time.
  - verdverm 6y ago
    There was a significant uptick in auto deaths in may/June once lockdown was eased. Drug overdoses are up too. Homicides is another that has been up lately. Are these indirectly related to Covid? Are all contemporary deaths Covid induced? Are any lockdown induced but not Covid directly?
    - samcheng 6y ago
      I would suggest that the anomaly in death rate, because it is well-correlated in time with COVID infection rate, is primarily caused by COVID, directly or indirectly, yes. Think also about the people who have postponed going to the doctor or dentist due to fears of infection.

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verdverm 6y ago

How do you know the difference between Covid stats and excess deaths are from COVID and not another cause? There are cases of people not seeking medical help because they were told non-essential visits were to be avoided.

samcheng 6y ago
There are also fewer e.g. auto traffic deaths due to the lockdown. These are all secondary effects given the number of deaths that mentioned COVID in the coroner's report. (See the headline article.) All of it is due to the pandemic, directly or indirectly, right? There were no other significant national fatality-related events in that timeline, thank goodness. You'll see that the death rate is remarkably predictable over time.
- verdverm 6y ago
  There was a significant uptick in auto deaths in may/June once lockdown was eased. Drug overdoses are up too. Homicides is another that has been up lately. Are these indirectly related to Covid? Are all contemporary deaths Covid induced? Are any lockdown induced but not Covid directly?
  - samcheng 6y ago
    I would suggest that the anomaly in death rate, because it is well-correlated in time with COVID infection rate, is primarily caused by COVID, directly or indirectly, yes. Think also about the people who have postponed going to the doctor or dentist due to fears of infection.