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My gut reaction: it looks great! Also, there is no way I’d use it unless Google committed to not killing it off for at least five years. I don’t mind trying ex

My gut reaction: it looks great! Also, there is no way I’d use it unless Google committed to not killing it off for at least five years. I don’t mind trying experimental personal tools, but I really don’t want to get a whole team of people reliant on this thing, just to see it get cancelled like the hundreds of other projects Google has killed over the years. A paid support option would be nice too - I think I saw something about a paid “support for ANY Google product” option earlier this year but I can’t find it just now.

xkcd-sucks 6y ago
Is it even remotely possible that Google would sell discontinued products to other entities, e.g. raise money to buy Wave as a separate company or something like that?
- jordanthoms 6y ago
  Google products are generally dependent on a whole lot of services which only exist within Google, so it'd probably have to be rebuilt after a sale.
- dmoy 6y ago
  I would guess the monorepo makes this very difficult to do
- ithkuil 6y ago
  Not as long as products are built on top of proprietary internal SDKs such as google3, borg etc. Google started to open source some of the internal projects (e.g. bazel), which, among other things, would make it easier to just donate / spin off a project they are no longer interested supporting.
  - alasdair_ 6y ago
    I worked at a Google spinoff a few years ago. It took a lot of work to move everything from internal Google infrastructure to external (Google Cloud) and it probably took a full year after the official date of us leaving Google to have everything fully migrated - there were lots of small things like seldom used config files or occasional scripts that still relied on Google’s internal stuff.
  - ponker 6y ago
    Also a failed product from Google will be worth no more than $1 billion which is hard to get the Google C-suite excited about.
rodiger 6y ago
https://cloud.google.com/support https://cloud.google.com/support It's not ANY, but it's all GSuite/GCP products.
xwdv 6y ago
One easy way to make a successful startup is to copy something Google is doing completely, and then wait for them to kill it off because it doesn't make enough profit for them to be worthwhile. Then you soak up all the customers who still wanted it. Works damn near every time.
- ipsum2 6y ago
  How many successful startups have you made from this plan?
- the-dude 6y ago
  Do you have a handful of examples?
  - benjaminjackman 6y ago
    Maybe RSS readers?
ianmobbs 6y ago
I believe it's "Google One" - https://one.google.com/about/support https://one.google.com/about/support

xkcd-sucks 6y ago

Is it even remotely possible that Google would sell discontinued products to other entities, e.g. raise money to buy Wave as a separate company or something like that?

jordanthoms 6y ago
Google products are generally dependent on a whole lot of services which only exist within Google, so it'd probably have to be rebuilt after a sale.
dmoy 6y ago
I would guess the monorepo makes this very difficult to do
ithkuil 6y ago
Not as long as products are built on top of proprietary internal SDKs such as google3, borg etc. Google started to open source some of the internal projects (e.g. bazel), which, among other things, would make it easier to just donate / spin off a project they are no longer interested supporting.
- alasdair_ 6y ago
  I worked at a Google spinoff a few years ago. It took a lot of work to move everything from internal Google infrastructure to external (Google Cloud) and it probably took a full year after the official date of us leaving Google to have everything fully migrated - there were lots of small things like seldom used config files or occasional scripts that still relied on Google’s internal stuff.
- ponker 6y ago
  Also a failed product from Google will be worth no more than $1 billion which is hard to get the Google C-suite excited about.

rodiger 6y ago

https://cloud.google.com/support https://cloud.google.com/support It's not ANY, but it's all GSuite/GCP products.

xwdv 6y ago

One easy way to make a successful startup is to copy something Google is doing completely, and then wait for them to kill it off because it doesn't make enough profit for them to be worthwhile. Then you soak up all the customers who still wanted it. Works damn near every time.

ipsum2 6y ago
How many successful startups have you made from this plan?
the-dude 6y ago
Do you have a handful of examples?
- benjaminjackman 6y ago
  Maybe RSS readers?

ianmobbs 6y ago

I believe it's "Google One" - https://one.google.com/about/support https://one.google.com/about/support