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so you are fine with allowing all the human atrocities by CCP because of what usa has done in the past? i cannot make heads or tails of this perspective as one

by yters 6y ago

so you are fine with allowing all the human atrocities by CCP because of what usa has done in the past? i cannot make heads or tails of this perspective as one of jewish descent, i am glad usa denounced the holocaust during ww2, and didn't use its past injustices as an excuse to remain silent

coldtea 6y ago
>so you are fine with allowing all the human atrocities by CCP because of what usa has done in the past? i cannot make heads or tails of this perspective Let me reverse the question: are you fine with selective-outrage against all the human atrocities by CCP be used as a tool for foreign policy to further interests/help in new attrocities? At the same time when those using those (to help their policies) have commited themselves, and continue to commit similar attrocities? I'd say condemn all attrocities, don't be selective. Else I can't make heads or tails of this perspective. It's basically "my country right or wrong, plus, I will condemnt whatever country my country's foreign interests want to target this period and ignore what others that are allies do". >as one of jewish descent, i am glad usa denounced the holocaust during ww2 Well, not that much. For one, its businesses gave the logistics assistance that helped it go through. And few batted an eye in such cases: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_St._Louis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_St._Louis https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2001/04/hitlers-willing-business-partners/303146/ https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2001/04/hitlers... https://www.history.com/topics/world-war-ii/american-response-to-the-holocaust https://www.history.com/topics/world-war-ii/american-respons... "The American public discovered the full extent of the Holocaust only when the Allied armies liberated the extermination and concentration camps at the end of World War II. And as historians struggled to understand what had happened, attention increasingly focused on the inadequate American response and what lay behind it. It remains today the subject of great debate."
- yters 6y ago
  and do you think it was good the usa did so little about the holocaust? there are a number of atrocities around the world today, but nothing approaches the scale of the ccp

by yters 6y ago

coldtea 6y ago

>so you are fine with allowing all the human atrocities by CCP because of what usa has done in the past? i cannot make heads or tails of this perspective Let me reverse the question: are you fine with selective-outrage against all the human atrocities by CCP be used as a tool for foreign policy to further interests/help in new attrocities? At the same time when those using those (to help their policies) have commited themselves, and continue to commit similar attrocities? I'd say condemn all attrocities, don't be selective. Else I can't make heads or tails of this perspective. It's basically "my country right or wrong, plus, I will condemnt whatever country my country's foreign interests want to target this period and ignore what others that are allies do". >as one of jewish descent, i am glad usa denounced the holocaust during ww2 Well, not that much. For one, its businesses gave the logistics assistance that helped it go through. And few batted an eye in such cases: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_St._Louis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_St._Louis https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2001/04/hitlers-willing-business-partners/303146/ https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2001/04/hitlers... https://www.history.com/topics/world-war-ii/american-response-to-the-holocaust https://www.history.com/topics/world-war-ii/american-respons... "The American public discovered the full extent of the Holocaust only when the Allied armies liberated the extermination and concentration camps at the end of World War II. And as historians struggled to understand what had happened, attention increasingly focused on the inadequate American response and what lay behind it. It remains today the subject of great debate."

yters 6y ago
and do you think it was good the usa did so little about the holocaust? there are a number of atrocities around the world today, but nothing approaches the scale of the ccp