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I used IntelliJ for almost two years, JS and Java. I hope I never have to use it again. It's laggy, clunky and with a less than intuitive UI. Yes, it is powerfu

by erokar 6y ago

I used IntelliJ for almost two years, JS and Java. I hope I never have to use it again. It's laggy, clunky and with a less than intuitive UI. Yes, it is powerful but it doesn't weigh up for its shortcomings.

icedchai 6y ago
Try Eclipse for a while. You'll definitely want to get IntelliJ back.
- teacpde 6y ago
  Being less worse is not enough to win users back.
- franga2000 6y ago
  I never did understand all the Eclipse hate, especially when compared to IntelliJ. I use both regularly and the only thing Eclipse is missing for me is a proper searchable command pallete. Code navigation, refactoring, debugging and version control all work great, it's much faster and resource-friendly than IntelliJ and many things are a lot more straight forward (like the lack of IntelliJ's confusing changesets and non-native file pickers).
  - icedchai 6y ago
    Perhaps Eclipse has improved. The last time I personally used it for a project was back in 2011. It was slow, laggy, and I found the UI to be less friendly than IntelliJ. Obviously some of that is personal preference.
  - ben7799 6y ago
    This depends on your use case. I work on an enterprise project with 100+ gradle projects and a pile of targets for docker containers, kubernetes deployments, DB schemas, Redis stuff, etc.. Eclipse is incredibly slow in this use case compared to IntelliJ and would frequently gobble 10GB of Ram. I switched from Eclipse to IntelliJ earlier this year after years on this project and IntelliJ is amazingly better. But if you're using some different build system and a different type of project configuration maybe it's the other way around.. I think the thing with these
    - icedchai 6y ago
      The last project I used Eclipse on consisted of like 50 different maven modules. Plus we were also using a mix of Java and Scala code. The Scala plugin we were using seemed to make everything run very, very slowly. At times, it couldn't even keep up with my typing. This was back in 2011 though. Obviously things have changed. The difference between Eclipse and IntelliJ was like night-and-day, however, in terms of performance.
    - tmd83 6y ago
      I used Eclipse a long time ago and it had horrible performance. But IntelliJ quality had been really bad in recent years. Minor updates causing major performance regression, taking massive CPU when nothing is being worked on. It was way more stable product in earlier versions.
  - drkstr 6y ago
    CTRL+3 to bring up the command pallette. Cheers!
    - franga2000 6y ago
      Thanks!! I opened it once by accident and haven't managed to find it again (it's not called "command pallete" so I couldn't find anything in the docs). I suck at remembering keyboard shortcuts, so this is going to be a significant productivity boost!
      - drkstr 6y ago
        Haha, yup no problem. I saw someone do it once in a youtube video and was like WTH was even that!!?
  - sh87 6y ago
    Neither did I. I was introduced to Eclipse before I got my first job and today, 9 years later it still gets the job done. I briefly use IntelliJ IDEA CE only for one static analysis plugin that works better in IDEA, most code editing is in Eclipse. I don't love eclipse, not a person to get too attached to an IDE, but it is an incredible piece of open source software. It works. Also too much effort in rewiring keyboard shortcuts that have made their way to my muscle memory. So eclipse it is.
- erokar 6y ago
  I do all my coding in VS Code now (JS, Elixir and sometimes even Java).
  - icedchai 6y ago
    I recently used VS Code for a personal project involving embedded C++ development. I used the PlatformIO extension. It was nice! I will definitely try it for other projects in the future.
- pjmlp 6y ago
  Funny InteliJ made me love Eclipse again, and other than Android Studio, I don't plan to touch anything made by JetBrains unless required to do so due to work contracts.
p1necone 6y ago
I haven't had this experience - but I do have a relatively powerful PC (16gb ram, SSD, Ryzen 3600). IntelliJ has always been really responsive for me, even on large projects.
- Godel_unicode 6y ago
  In my experience helping others get set up, slow JetBrains tools are usually an AV problem, or a (shudder) spinning rust problem. It seems like the developers agree, given that new versions will offer to setup AV exceptions for you automatically.

by erokar 6y ago

icedchai 6y ago

Try Eclipse for a while. You'll definitely want to get IntelliJ back.

teacpde 6y ago
Being less worse is not enough to win users back.
franga2000 6y ago
I never did understand all the Eclipse hate, especially when compared to IntelliJ. I use both regularly and the only thing Eclipse is missing for me is a proper searchable command pallete. Code navigation, refactoring, debugging and version control all work great, it's much faster and resource-friendly than IntelliJ and many things are a lot more straight forward (like the lack of IntelliJ's confusing changesets and non-native file pickers).
- icedchai 6y ago
  Perhaps Eclipse has improved. The last time I personally used it for a project was back in 2011. It was slow, laggy, and I found the UI to be less friendly than IntelliJ. Obviously some of that is personal preference.
- ben7799 6y ago
  This depends on your use case. I work on an enterprise project with 100+ gradle projects and a pile of targets for docker containers, kubernetes deployments, DB schemas, Redis stuff, etc.. Eclipse is incredibly slow in this use case compared to IntelliJ and would frequently gobble 10GB of Ram. I switched from Eclipse to IntelliJ earlier this year after years on this project and IntelliJ is amazingly better. But if you're using some different build system and a different type of project configuration maybe it's the other way around.. I think the thing with these
  - icedchai 6y ago
    The last project I used Eclipse on consisted of like 50 different maven modules. Plus we were also using a mix of Java and Scala code. The Scala plugin we were using seemed to make everything run very, very slowly. At times, it couldn't even keep up with my typing. This was back in 2011 though. Obviously things have changed. The difference between Eclipse and IntelliJ was like night-and-day, however, in terms of performance.
  - tmd83 6y ago
    I used Eclipse a long time ago and it had horrible performance. But IntelliJ quality had been really bad in recent years. Minor updates causing major performance regression, taking massive CPU when nothing is being worked on. It was way more stable product in earlier versions.
- drkstr 6y ago
  CTRL+3 to bring up the command pallette. Cheers!
  - franga2000 6y ago
    Thanks!! I opened it once by accident and haven't managed to find it again (it's not called "command pallete" so I couldn't find anything in the docs). I suck at remembering keyboard shortcuts, so this is going to be a significant productivity boost!
    - drkstr 6y ago
      Haha, yup no problem. I saw someone do it once in a youtube video and was like WTH was even that!!?
- sh87 6y ago
  Neither did I. I was introduced to Eclipse before I got my first job and today, 9 years later it still gets the job done. I briefly use IntelliJ IDEA CE only for one static analysis plugin that works better in IDEA, most code editing is in Eclipse. I don't love eclipse, not a person to get too attached to an IDE, but it is an incredible piece of open source software. It works. Also too much effort in rewiring keyboard shortcuts that have made their way to my muscle memory. So eclipse it is.
erokar 6y ago
I do all my coding in VS Code now (JS, Elixir and sometimes even Java).
- icedchai 6y ago
  I recently used VS Code for a personal project involving embedded C++ development. I used the PlatformIO extension. It was nice! I will definitely try it for other projects in the future.
pjmlp 6y ago
Funny InteliJ made me love Eclipse again, and other than Android Studio, I don't plan to touch anything made by JetBrains unless required to do so due to work contracts.

p1necone 6y ago

I haven't had this experience - but I do have a relatively powerful PC (16gb ram, SSD, Ryzen 3600). IntelliJ has always been really responsive for me, even on large projects.

Godel_unicode 6y ago
In my experience helping others get set up, slow JetBrains tools are usually an AV problem, or a (shudder) spinning rust problem. It seems like the developers agree, given that new versions will offer to setup AV exceptions for you automatically.