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Yahoo was doing this way back in 2013 and Marissa Mayer banned it because it wasn’t working. What has changed since then apart from the pandemic? I expect most

Yahoo was doing this way back in 2013 and Marissa Mayer banned it because it wasn’t working. What has changed since then apart from the pandemic? I expect most companies to go back to office work after the pandemic, for the same reasons why they were not doing much remote work before. In Apple’s case, IP theft is likely to be the trigger.

raverbashing 6y ago
"Wasn't working" based on what data? Yahoo was already down the drain at that point. Sounds like it was more about blaming the workers (and trying to shake things up) than anything else Though to be fair, video conferencing systems at the time weren't great
notional 6y ago
> Yahoo was doing this way back in 2013 and Marissa Mayer banned it because it wasn’t working. I've never seen anyone make the claim that Mayer banned it because 'it wasn't working'. That's quite a revisionist history take.
- perpetualpatzer 6y ago
  Are you suggesting Yahoo getting rid of WFH wasn't an effort to boost employee performance? Or just objecting to the idea that "it wasn't working" suggests absolute performance was poor? Rereading the announcement memo[0], it seems pretty clear that the change flowed from a belief that being physically present would yield better work outcomes: "Speed and quality are often sacrificed when we work from home. We need to be one Yahoo!, and that starts with physically being together." [0] http://allthingsd.com/20130222/physically-together-heres-the-internal-yahoo-no-work-from-home-memo-which-extends-beyond-remote-workers/ http://allthingsd.com/20130222/physically-together-heres-the...
  - TomVDB 6y ago
    I wouldn't discount the possibility that this was a case of mistaken causation instead of correlation, and some kind of hail Mary pass. "Yahoo isn't doing great work, a lot of people work from home, it must be because they are working from home." Mayer's tenure at Yahoo wasn't exactly a great success...

raverbashing 6y ago

"Wasn't working" based on what data? Yahoo was already down the drain at that point. Sounds like it was more about blaming the workers (and trying to shake things up) than anything else Though to be fair, video conferencing systems at the time weren't great

notional 6y ago

> Yahoo was doing this way back in 2013 and Marissa Mayer banned it because it wasn’t working. I've never seen anyone make the claim that Mayer banned it because 'it wasn't working'. That's quite a revisionist history take.

perpetualpatzer 6y ago
Are you suggesting Yahoo getting rid of WFH wasn't an effort to boost employee performance? Or just objecting to the idea that "it wasn't working" suggests absolute performance was poor? Rereading the announcement memo[0], it seems pretty clear that the change flowed from a belief that being physically present would yield better work outcomes: "Speed and quality are often sacrificed when we work from home. We need to be one Yahoo!, and that starts with physically being together." [0] http://allthingsd.com/20130222/physically-together-heres-the-internal-yahoo-no-work-from-home-memo-which-extends-beyond-remote-workers/ http://allthingsd.com/20130222/physically-together-heres-the...
- TomVDB 6y ago
  I wouldn't discount the possibility that this was a case of mistaken causation instead of correlation, and some kind of hail Mary pass. "Yahoo isn't doing great work, a lot of people work from home, it must be because they are working from home." Mayer's tenure at Yahoo wasn't exactly a great success...