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Most of it is just the HN echo chamber. Folks commenting that GCP my be shut down because it doesn't make as much money as Azure, totally oblivious to the fact

Most of it is just the HN echo chamber. Folks commenting that GCP my be shut down because it doesn't make as much money as Azure, totally oblivious to the fact that Google has billions invested in physical buildings and hardware being hammered on and built out around the world as we speak, just shows that folks here are out of the loop on this type of thing.

machello13 6y ago
> Most of it is just the HN echo chamber. I don't think this is true. Plenty of "normal", non-HN people bring this up too (I mean, not my mom, but like regular somewhat tech-savvy people). You can point to GCP all you want, but people are just going to keep pointing to https://killedbygoogle.com/ https://killedbygoogle.com/.
buzzerbetrayed 6y ago
From what I can tell, there isn't a single person in this thread claiming GCP may be shut down. And if there is, it certainly isn't a meaningful number of people. What you're doing is claiming people hold an easily attackable position that they don't hold, and attacking that position. It's called strawmanning.
- res0nat0r 6y ago
  Not in this thread, but it has happened a couple of times in the past any time Google products / GCP have been brought up, and that I've replied to saying that it is nonsense.
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zentiggr 6y ago
Aside from an easily dismissed hardware-backed GCP case, Google _does_ have a long history of useful and interesting ideas that launch, gain some users, look really useful if some effort is put into it, and get dropped instead. Even if some solid use cases are building. I'm going to look at this idea, see what it might be able to do, and look at whether there's another alternative that would be likelier to survive.
cpeterso 6y ago
OTOH, Google doesn’t like to invest big money in businesses that aren’t on track to be big. From just nine months ago: “Google Brass Set 2023 as Deadline to Beat Amazon, Microsoft in Cloud” https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21815260 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21815260
- res0nat0r 6y ago
  That is the exact thread I have a comment in from ~9 months ago. Anyone thinking that Google is going to shut down 24 physical datacenter regions spread all around the world if they're not #1 in the cloud market in 3 years is insane. The cloud market is multi billion dollar business and is only going to continue growing (even moreso now in the last ~9 months thanks to COVID). It isn't a free RSS aggregator that isn't maintained anymore and thus going to be sundowned.
  - luka-birsa 6y ago
    The funny thing is, I had a pitch by Azure to convince us to switch from GCP. And they point blank said that Google is not investing into GCP and implied that it's on a death bed. LOL
    - res0nat0r 6y ago
      Sounds like their salesman needs to work a little harder on his pitch. :)

machello13 6y ago

> Most of it is just the HN echo chamber. I don't think this is true. Plenty of "normal", non-HN people bring this up too (I mean, not my mom, but like regular somewhat tech-savvy people). You can point to GCP all you want, but people are just going to keep pointing to https://killedbygoogle.com/ https://killedbygoogle.com/.

buzzerbetrayed 6y ago

From what I can tell, there isn't a single person in this thread claiming GCP may be shut down. And if there is, it certainly isn't a meaningful number of people. What you're doing is claiming people hold an easily attackable position that they don't hold, and attacking that position. It's called strawmanning.

res0nat0r 6y ago
Not in this thread, but it has happened a couple of times in the past any time Google products / GCP have been brought up, and that I've replied to saying that it is nonsense.
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zentiggr 6y ago

Aside from an easily dismissed hardware-backed GCP case, Google _does_ have a long history of useful and interesting ideas that launch, gain some users, look really useful if some effort is put into it, and get dropped instead. Even if some solid use cases are building. I'm going to look at this idea, see what it might be able to do, and look at whether there's another alternative that would be likelier to survive.

cpeterso 6y ago

OTOH, Google doesn’t like to invest big money in businesses that aren’t on track to be big. From just nine months ago: “Google Brass Set 2023 as Deadline to Beat Amazon, Microsoft in Cloud” https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21815260 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21815260

res0nat0r 6y ago
That is the exact thread I have a comment in from ~9 months ago. Anyone thinking that Google is going to shut down 24 physical datacenter regions spread all around the world if they're not #1 in the cloud market in 3 years is insane. The cloud market is multi billion dollar business and is only going to continue growing (even moreso now in the last ~9 months thanks to COVID). It isn't a free RSS aggregator that isn't maintained anymore and thus going to be sundowned.
- luka-birsa 6y ago
  The funny thing is, I had a pitch by Azure to convince us to switch from GCP. And they point blank said that Google is not investing into GCP and implied that it's on a death bed. LOL
  - res0nat0r 6y ago
    Sounds like their salesman needs to work a little harder on his pitch. :)