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When on Linux or Windows, one of the most annoying things for me is that they use a Compose key, that requires me to 'AltGr+"' to write ü. On MacOSX, I just ho

When on Linux or Windows, one of the most annoying things for me is that they use a Compose key, that requires me to 'AltGr+"' to write ü. On MacOSX, I just hold u, and a menu appears, that allows me to select ü by just pressing 2. So I end up just doing u+2. With the huge advantage that I don't have to remember the combinations. Similar for emojis and pretty much anything else you'd like to type as others have mentioned. So the only question i have is: why? Really. Why would anyone go through the trouble of porting compose keys to macosx, when macosx native solution is so much better? Time would be better spent on porting MacosX solution to Linux, Windows, et. al.

wraptile 6y ago
What do you mean by "hold u"? Holding u just repeats the key, right? Why is macosx system is better? Compose keys are mnemonic: e + . = ė ‒ you don't need to remember any abitrary codes and there are no popups or any implicit accidents. I've tried many different schemes etc and compose key is still my favorite system and having unified system for linux and macos is big bonus for cross platform users. At the end of the day it's just another option! :)
- saagarjha 6y ago
  By default holding down a key does not repeat it. I suspect you’ve probably turned that behavior off.
  - wraptile 6y ago
    oh I didn't know that was the default though I can't imagine using a keyboard without key repeat!
    - WhiteWestie 6y ago
      I had to disable it so I could use vim properly unfortunately.
- fluffything 6y ago
  > What do you mean by "hold u"? Holding u just repeats the key, right? No, it does not. Holding u briefly overlays a keyboard of "compositions" for u, and you can just press whatever key you want afterwards to pick one, see: https://osxdaily.com/2017/03/22/type-accents-mac-easy/ https://osxdaily.com/2017/03/22/type-accents-mac-easy/ > Why is macosx system is better? Compose keys are mnemonic Because macosx system is not mnemonic. If I need to type a particular accent, which I do very often, and there are O(50) variations of them, I don't have to remember anything. Instead, the computer shows me all the options as a type, and I just pick the one I want. --- If I need to type "u" 42 times for whatever reason, holding u and waiting sucks anyways. Every editor I use has a better more precise way of doing this (on my emacs its just meta+42+u), and worst case I can always just do cmd+space and execute "repeat 42 u" or similar.
SxC97 6y ago
> So the only question i have is: why? Really. Why would anyone go through the trouble of porting compose keys to macosx, when macosx native solution is so much better? The only reason I can think of is that some people like to have the hold key action repeatedly type the specified character and the compose menu gets in the way of that. This is a relatively clever way of keeping both features active without having to repeatedly resort to terminal commands.

wraptile 6y ago

What do you mean by "hold u"? Holding u just repeats the key, right? Why is macosx system is better? Compose keys are mnemonic: e + . = ė ‒ you don't need to remember any abitrary codes and there are no popups or any implicit accidents. I've tried many different schemes etc and compose key is still my favorite system and having unified system for linux and macos is big bonus for cross platform users. At the end of the day it's just another option! :)

saagarjha 6y ago
By default holding down a key does not repeat it. I suspect you’ve probably turned that behavior off.
- wraptile 6y ago
  oh I didn't know that was the default though I can't imagine using a keyboard without key repeat!
  - WhiteWestie 6y ago
    I had to disable it so I could use vim properly unfortunately.
fluffything 6y ago
> What do you mean by "hold u"? Holding u just repeats the key, right? No, it does not. Holding u briefly overlays a keyboard of "compositions" for u, and you can just press whatever key you want afterwards to pick one, see: https://osxdaily.com/2017/03/22/type-accents-mac-easy/ https://osxdaily.com/2017/03/22/type-accents-mac-easy/ > Why is macosx system is better? Compose keys are mnemonic Because macosx system is not mnemonic. If I need to type a particular accent, which I do very often, and there are O(50) variations of them, I don't have to remember anything. Instead, the computer shows me all the options as a type, and I just pick the one I want. --- If I need to type "u" 42 times for whatever reason, holding u and waiting sucks anyways. Every editor I use has a better more precise way of doing this (on my emacs its just meta+42+u), and worst case I can always just do cmd+space and execute "repeat 42 u" or similar.

SxC97 6y ago

> So the only question i have is: why? Really. Why would anyone go through the trouble of porting compose keys to macosx, when macosx native solution is so much better? The only reason I can think of is that some people like to have the hold key action repeatedly type the specified character and the compose menu gets in the way of that. This is a relatively clever way of keeping both features active without having to repeatedly resort to terminal commands.