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Dude have you been to hawaii? their culture is very much in tact and proud. Not only that but locals have special rights and privileges over mainlanders not the

Dude have you been to hawaii? their culture is very much in tact and proud. Not only that but locals have special rights and privileges over mainlanders not the reverse.

arbitrary_name 6y ago
I've lived there and I can tell you that many Hawaiians are not appreciative of being colonized, nor should they be. Having their own flag and extra labor laws does not ameliorate the injustices and negative consequences of colonization. Nor am I qualified to talk, I just want to point out that many of my Hawaiian friends would not in any way agree with your statement, and it is worth factoring that in to the broader discussion.
- bobbyz 6y ago
  Woah! How rude of you to shatter their fanciful delusions of a people they can't relate to with those people's actual opinions!
  - dang 6y ago
    You can't vandalize HN threads like this, regardless of how wrong other people are or you feel they are. If you know more about a topic, that's great, but the thing to do is share some of what you know so that people can learn. Flaming aggression doesn't help anyone and only hurts the cause you're trying to stand up for. Please see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24563326 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24563326 also. I don't mean to pick on you personally and I'm not commenting on your views—only that your comments stand out in this thread as particularly nasty, and from a moderation point of view that's not ok. From a human point of view, I sympathize. Most of us would feel and act this way in your position. I know what it feels like to be the sole person arguing against a majority view—it is extremely activating, and when people are speaking out of ignorance, it can be maddening. Nevertheless you can't post to HN like you've been doing in this thread. You have to manage the activation in yourself and post within the site guidelines. In a way this is not fair, because others are also being nasty, but happen to have majority opinion on their side, which creates a false impression of reasonableness. But fair or not, it's the way that mass psychology works—there's a greater burden on the one who holds a contrarian position. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - bobbyz 6y ago
      Sorry, my han supremacy leaked through. I would have just spray-painted the han supremacy equivalent of a swastika onto a few walls, but there's no such thing. No Chinese KKK to join either. We really are lagging behind the west!
      - dang 6y ago
        I'm trying to help you use HN as intended. If you can't or don't want to do that, we're going to have to ban you. I'd rather not do that, so would you please help us out and follow HN's rules? It is in your interest to do so, because your current comments are unfortunately just reinforcing the very prejudice you're hurt and outraged by. That's an important reason why you shouldn't be commenting like this. It contributes to hurting what you mean to defend. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
        bobbyz 6y ago
        This comment is not going to look great when/if the term 'Han Supremacy' becomes recognized as hate speech
- shrewduser 6y ago
  Not my experience, they seem like proud Americans, but i'm an outsider. It was during the Obama era and they seemed quite chuffed to tell me Obama was born in hawaii. I wonder what they'd say if you asked them if they'd like to leave the USA?
justicezyx 6y ago
CCP can give you millions of examples of "their culture is very much in tact and proud. Not only that but locals have special rights and privileges over mainlanders not the reverse." Does that make this reported events legitimate?
- 1024core 6y ago
  Han Chinese are paid to move to Tibet and then "act" Tibetan, for the benefit of Western tourists. My friend's sister is employed in this manner. It's enough to fool people like you, but it doesn't fool the local Tibetans, who are being sidelined more and more.
Mediterraneo10 6y ago
Hawaiian culture is not intact. The Hawaiian language has suffered enormous domain loss. Few are the shops or restaurants where one can get by entirely in Hawaiian, and forget about being able to speak your language with most of your elected officials and public servants.

Dude have you been to hawaii? their culture is very much in tact and proud. Not only that but locals have special rights and privileges over mainlanders not the reverse.

arbitrary_name 6y ago

I've lived there and I can tell you that many Hawaiians are not appreciative of being colonized, nor should they be. Having their own flag and extra labor laws does not ameliorate the injustices and negative consequences of colonization. Nor am I qualified to talk, I just want to point out that many of my Hawaiian friends would not in any way agree with your statement, and it is worth factoring that in to the broader discussion.

bobbyz 6y ago
Woah! How rude of you to shatter their fanciful delusions of a people they can't relate to with those people's actual opinions!
- dang 6y ago
  You can't vandalize HN threads like this, regardless of how wrong other people are or you feel they are. If you know more about a topic, that's great, but the thing to do is share some of what you know so that people can learn. Flaming aggression doesn't help anyone and only hurts the cause you're trying to stand up for. Please see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24563326 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24563326 also. I don't mean to pick on you personally and I'm not commenting on your views—only that your comments stand out in this thread as particularly nasty, and from a moderation point of view that's not ok. From a human point of view, I sympathize. Most of us would feel and act this way in your position. I know what it feels like to be the sole person arguing against a majority view—it is extremely activating, and when people are speaking out of ignorance, it can be maddening. Nevertheless you can't post to HN like you've been doing in this thread. You have to manage the activation in yourself and post within the site guidelines. In a way this is not fair, because others are also being nasty, but happen to have majority opinion on their side, which creates a false impression of reasonableness. But fair or not, it's the way that mass psychology works—there's a greater burden on the one who holds a contrarian position. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - bobbyz 6y ago
    Sorry, my han supremacy leaked through. I would have just spray-painted the han supremacy equivalent of a swastika onto a few walls, but there's no such thing. No Chinese KKK to join either. We really are lagging behind the west!
    - dang 6y ago
      I'm trying to help you use HN as intended. If you can't or don't want to do that, we're going to have to ban you. I'd rather not do that, so would you please help us out and follow HN's rules? It is in your interest to do so, because your current comments are unfortunately just reinforcing the very prejudice you're hurt and outraged by. That's an important reason why you shouldn't be commenting like this. It contributes to hurting what you mean to defend. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
      - bobbyz 6y ago
        This comment is not going to look great when/if the term 'Han Supremacy' becomes recognized as hate speech
shrewduser 6y ago
Not my experience, they seem like proud Americans, but i'm an outsider. It was during the Obama era and they seemed quite chuffed to tell me Obama was born in hawaii. I wonder what they'd say if you asked them if they'd like to leave the USA?

justicezyx 6y ago

CCP can give you millions of examples of "their culture is very much in tact and proud. Not only that but locals have special rights and privileges over mainlanders not the reverse." Does that make this reported events legitimate?

1024core 6y ago
Han Chinese are paid to move to Tibet and then "act" Tibetan, for the benefit of Western tourists. My friend's sister is employed in this manner. It's enough to fool people like you, but it doesn't fool the local Tibetans, who are being sidelined more and more.

Mediterraneo10 6y ago

Hawaiian culture is not intact. The Hawaiian language has suffered enormous domain loss. Few are the shops or restaurants where one can get by entirely in Hawaiian, and forget about being able to speak your language with most of your elected officials and public servants.