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I'm seeing a lot of flagged comments and repeated commenters seeming to exaggerate viewpoints and stir up discord in this thread. I'm not always on the 'china b

I'm seeing a lot of flagged comments and repeated commenters seeming to exaggerate viewpoints and stir up discord in this thread. I'm not always on the 'china bad' train but it seems like their social engineering efforts have reached HN. Readers, please double-check your sources and form your own opinions beyond repeating what you read in an HN thread.

colesantiago 6y ago
citation needed, who are these people?
49531 6y ago
The problem I am having is that articles like this make it to the front page of HN while not providing any sources of their own. We've seen a sharp uptick in anti-Chinese rhetoric over the last couple of years and most of it seems to be coming from the US State Dept. I have no special place in my heart for China, but this is too reminiscent of US propaganda tactics used to justify invasion in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Libya.
- bobbyz 6y ago
  but, but, muh data!
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edwinyzh 6y ago
For the record, I'm a pro-CCP Chinese who turned from a CCP hater. I hated it because I was young, saw some bad things happened in the past, and read too much biased, anti-CCP opinions. I've become an advocate of CCP after I learned some history, after having a deeper and broader understanding of all the things, after seeing what happened in the past ten, especially in the past 2 years, and so on. You can check my HN profile and can easily tell that I'm not pretend to be, but is actually independent of CCP. My father is a member of CCP though. Before my age of 30 or so, the one thing that I do the most when I'm home is to argue with him about the badness of CCP. I'm older now, and it turned out that he's opinion was right, although he wasn't able to convince me - I came to my conclusion on my own, by self-thinking, reading, and observing. I'm not saying that CCP is perfect, I still hate the Great firewall, but it's a complex issue that I'm not going to expand on it here. Anyone who's with an open mind and is curious about my change (I know a lot of people changed like me), feel free to ask any question.

colesantiago 6y ago

citation needed, who are these people?

49531 6y ago

The problem I am having is that articles like this make it to the front page of HN while not providing any sources of their own. We've seen a sharp uptick in anti-Chinese rhetoric over the last couple of years and most of it seems to be coming from the US State Dept. I have no special place in my heart for China, but this is too reminiscent of US propaganda tactics used to justify invasion in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Libya.

bobbyz 6y ago
but, but, muh data!

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edwinyzh 6y ago

For the record, I'm a pro-CCP Chinese who turned from a CCP hater. I hated it because I was young, saw some bad things happened in the past, and read too much biased, anti-CCP opinions. I've become an advocate of CCP after I learned some history, after having a deeper and broader understanding of all the things, after seeing what happened in the past ten, especially in the past 2 years, and so on. You can check my HN profile and can easily tell that I'm not pretend to be, but is actually independent of CCP. My father is a member of CCP though. Before my age of 30 or so, the one thing that I do the most when I'm home is to argue with him about the badness of CCP. I'm older now, and it turned out that he's opinion was right, although he wasn't able to convince me - I came to my conclusion on my own, by self-thinking, reading, and observing. I'm not saying that CCP is perfect, I still hate the Great firewall, but it's a complex issue that I'm not going to expand on it here. Anyone who's with an open mind and is curious about my change (I know a lot of people changed like me), feel free to ask any question.