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Fair enough. Yes, two syllables, but there's a sound between the "val" and the "oo" parts. If I see "loo" absent context I would normally pronounce it without

Fair enough. Yes, two syllables, but there's a sound between the "val" and the "oo" parts. If I see "loo" absent context I would normally pronounce it without that intervening sound. Whereas "lieu" has it.

OJFord 6y ago
For me that intervening sound is a hard 'y' though (as in 'yes') not long 'ee'. Now I'm confused over whether Kivaloo is '~oo' as I assumed, or (roughly, weaker 'y') '~yoo' as I think we agree 'lieu' is?
- cperciva 6y ago
  It's pronounced "key-value". The "kee-va-lieu" thing was a joke. ;-)
wglb 6y ago
How do you pronounce “solder”?
- cperciva 6y ago
  saw-dur.
  - wglb 6y ago
    That is what I am accustomed to. However, Mr. Carlson of Mr. Carlson's lab pronounces it "soll-der". https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU9SoQxJewrWb_3GxeteQPA https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU9SoQxJewrWb_3GxeteQPA I was wondering if that is a common Canadian pronounciation.
    - OJFord 6y ago
      Wow, it's never occurred to me anyone would pronounce that much differently (Am/Can pronunciation of 'r' in 'er's aside)! UK is 'soll-duh', or I suppose 'sohl-duh', but certainly sounding the 'l'. Wiktionary suggests Canada generally follows the pronunciation your familiar with.
      - wglb 6y ago
        Yes, generally that is true. There are a few words, at least out west, that stand out: "About" "Schedule" "America". The last one is in jest. The word is pronounced the same--in the US, often the US is called America, seemingly excluding Canada, Central America, South America. And a fact that I didn't know until recently was that the Philippines prior to WW II was part of the United States. See "How to hide an empire" by Daniel Immerwahr: https://www.amazon.com/How-Hide-Empire-History-Greater/dp/0374172145 https://www.amazon.com/How-Hide-Empire-History-Greater/dp/03...