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I know plenty of "aging ravers" who are well into their 50s and 60s (and for that matter - yes, goths over 30, too). Just because a community formed around a co

by a_t48 6y ago

I know plenty of "aging ravers" who are well into their 50s and 60s (and for that matter - yes, goths over 30, too). Just because a community formed around a common (possibly frivolous) interest doesn't make it "not a real community". I'm part of a certain music community - the actual music itself isn't the draw to me (not to say I don't like it, but it's definitely not my favorite) - it's the kindness of the people. If I might ask - what kind of community are you a part of, and why does it make it better than the community I'm part of? And why even gatekeep what makes a good community?

furfags_go_away 6y ago
Is your community formed entirely based on zoophilia, pedophilia, and hardcore pornography? https://ganker.com/discord-has-a-furry-pedophile-problem/ https://ganker.com/discord-has-a-furry-pedophile-problem/ https://kiwifarms.net/threads/kero-the-wolf-joshua-hoffman-keroyamimora-yami-the-wolf.48033/ https://kiwifarms.net/threads/kero-the-wolf-joshua-hoffman-k...
coldtea 6y ago
>I know plenty of "aging ravers" who are well into their 50s and 60s Sure, my point wasn't that they don't exist, but that it's a sad clinging. >Just because a community formed around a common (possibly frivolous) interest doesn't make it "not a real community" In my book it does. For one it makes it exclusionary. And what when you lose interest in the "frivolous interest" later? You lose the friends or alienate some of them? That's not much of a community then to begin with. >And why even gatekeep what makes a good community? Shouldn't I rather ask this question to you? After all, you're the one who accepts a community that's gatekeeping based on an interest!
- furfags_go_away 6y ago
  It's so much worse than that, too. Look up "Kero the Wolf" sometime. But prepare a barf bag before you do. Kero is the true face of the furry fandom. They're all perverts that want to have sex with animals and/or children.
- detaro 6y ago
  Why would you be any more likely to loose friends found through something like that than through any other community when circumstances change? And most communities are based on something, be it interest, experiences, location, profession, ... - which community is not "gatekeeping" through some factor? If you exclude people from your social circles because they "don't belong (anymore)" is orthogonal to that, and not a thing unique to relationships through interest-based communities.
- a_t48 6y ago
  > Sure, my point wasn't that they don't exist, but that it's a sad clinging. That's like...just your opinion, man. :) > In my book it does. For one it makes it exclusionary. And what when you lose interest in the "frivolous interest" later? You lose the friends or alienate some of them? That's not much of a community then to begin with. That isn't what happens, though. They are still your friends, you can still do other things with them! Maybe you met someone at a board game convention, both over the years you stopped playing games (hey, life happens) - doesn't mean you can't or don't meet up with them for dinner, a music event, or... > Shouldn't I rather ask this question to you? After all, you're the one who accepts a community that's gatekeeping based on an interest! Aha! Here is the issue. The communities form around those interests, but there's nothing saying you can't join the community without having a heavy interest in it. Probably having some sort of passing interest is how you find out about the community in the first place, but it isn't a requirement. It feels to me that you're making a big assumption about a lot of communities that you've never personally interacted with.
  - coldtea 6y ago
    >That's like...just your opinion, man. :) Yes, but either all opinions are equally valid, and things are just matters of taste, or some opinions are more valid than others (not mine necessarily, just some). In which case, one might want to consider whether this one is more valid - and whether being a goth or a furry after teenager years makes much of a sense. If your argument is some variety of "anything should go" or "whatever doesn't actively hurt someone else is ok", or "it's a free country", or "whatever gets you through", then sure, can't argue with that...

by a_t48 6y ago

furfags_go_away 6y ago

Is your community formed entirely based on zoophilia, pedophilia, and hardcore pornography? https://ganker.com/discord-has-a-furry-pedophile-problem/ https://ganker.com/discord-has-a-furry-pedophile-problem/ https://kiwifarms.net/threads/kero-the-wolf-joshua-hoffman-keroyamimora-yami-the-wolf.48033/ https://kiwifarms.net/threads/kero-the-wolf-joshua-hoffman-k...

coldtea 6y ago

>I know plenty of "aging ravers" who are well into their 50s and 60s Sure, my point wasn't that they don't exist, but that it's a sad clinging. >Just because a community formed around a common (possibly frivolous) interest doesn't make it "not a real community" In my book it does. For one it makes it exclusionary. And what when you lose interest in the "frivolous interest" later? You lose the friends or alienate some of them? That's not much of a community then to begin with. >And why even gatekeep what makes a good community? Shouldn't I rather ask this question to you? After all, you're the one who accepts a community that's gatekeeping based on an interest!

furfags_go_away 6y ago
It's so much worse than that, too. Look up "Kero the Wolf" sometime. But prepare a barf bag before you do. Kero is the true face of the furry fandom. They're all perverts that want to have sex with animals and/or children.
detaro 6y ago
Why would you be any more likely to loose friends found through something like that than through any other community when circumstances change? And most communities are based on something, be it interest, experiences, location, profession, ... - which community is not "gatekeeping" through some factor? If you exclude people from your social circles because they "don't belong (anymore)" is orthogonal to that, and not a thing unique to relationships through interest-based communities.
a_t48 6y ago
> Sure, my point wasn't that they don't exist, but that it's a sad clinging. That's like...just your opinion, man. :) > In my book it does. For one it makes it exclusionary. And what when you lose interest in the "frivolous interest" later? You lose the friends or alienate some of them? That's not much of a community then to begin with. That isn't what happens, though. They are still your friends, you can still do other things with them! Maybe you met someone at a board game convention, both over the years you stopped playing games (hey, life happens) - doesn't mean you can't or don't meet up with them for dinner, a music event, or... > Shouldn't I rather ask this question to you? After all, you're the one who accepts a community that's gatekeeping based on an interest! Aha! Here is the issue. The communities form around those interests, but there's nothing saying you can't join the community without having a heavy interest in it. Probably having some sort of passing interest is how you find out about the community in the first place, but it isn't a requirement. It feels to me that you're making a big assumption about a lot of communities that you've never personally interacted with.
- coldtea 6y ago
  >That's like...just your opinion, man. :) Yes, but either all opinions are equally valid, and things are just matters of taste, or some opinions are more valid than others (not mine necessarily, just some). In which case, one might want to consider whether this one is more valid - and whether being a goth or a furry after teenager years makes much of a sense. If your argument is some variety of "anything should go" or "whatever doesn't actively hurt someone else is ok", or "it's a free country", or "whatever gets you through", then sure, can't argue with that...