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The amount of... failure to understand what you're talking about is on the level of white people trying to explain native american cultures after watching half

The amount of... failure to understand what you're talking about is on the level of white people trying to explain native american cultures after watching half of Pocahontas while half asleep. Furries started as a sexual fantasy like The Colbert Report started as a serious news show. It didn't. The Colbert Report was intended to satirize news outlets like Fox, but art imitates life and you gotta talk about the real world at one point or another. Furries started as panels and room parties at science fiction cons and guess what, humans do this thing where art imitates life and is a reflection of of humanity at large. But, you seem to have made it a goal to intentionally not understand what you're talking about and argue in bad faith, looking for validation of your limited worldview. To counter your point: My boss actively suggests to people a wide mix of books on subjects, including [The Manga Guide to Cryptography](https://nostarch.com/mangacrypto https://nostarch.com/mangacrypto) and within my company it's not uncommon to see people making MLP references, references to anime and manga (including BNA, Aggretsuko, Hello Kitty, etc) and more. If you can't read an article for the contents & think critically about its construction and presentation, did you even go to college? Or did you fake your way through that degree? Or were you just not challenged through high school to think and that's where your 4.2 perfect GPA came from?

throw_24537147 6y ago
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coldtea 6y ago
>Furries started as a sexual fantasy like The Colbert Report started as a serious news show. It didn't. The Colbert Report was intended to satirize news outlets like Fox, but art imitates life and you gotta talk about the real world at one point or another. Furries started as panels and room parties at science fiction cons and guess what, humans do this thing where art imitates life and is a reflection of of humanity at large. I don't think many care. It's a pop-culture, one of the random interests people adopt to feel "different" in the 20th/21st century (I guess kind of like "occult circles" in the 19th century or similar). How would one feel about a 30-40 year old "goth"? Exactly. In the juvenile 21st century culture it might be considered an acceptable passtime for someone over 20-22, but in the end it's no better than being a "goth", a "biker", a "raver", a "b-boy", a "trekie", a "new ager" or similar cringe-worthy identities people cling on to find a community in the absense of a real community of people. Real community being the variety that focuses on the actual character, personality, work, and behavior -- not on people having some niche affiliation/interest in order to be included.
- a_t48 6y ago
  I know plenty of "aging ravers" who are well into their 50s and 60s (and for that matter - yes, goths over 30, too). Just because a community formed around a common (possibly frivolous) interest doesn't make it "not a real community". I'm part of a certain music community - the actual music itself isn't the draw to me (not to say I don't like it, but it's definitely not my favorite) - it's the kindness of the people. If I might ask - what kind of community are you a part of, and why does it make it better than the community I'm part of? And why even gatekeep what makes a good community?
  - furfags_go_away 6y ago
    Is your community formed entirely based on zoophilia, pedophilia, and hardcore pornography? https://ganker.com/discord-has-a-furry-pedophile-problem/ https://ganker.com/discord-has-a-furry-pedophile-problem/ https://kiwifarms.net/threads/kero-the-wolf-joshua-hoffman-keroyamimora-yami-the-wolf.48033/ https://kiwifarms.net/threads/kero-the-wolf-joshua-hoffman-k...
  - coldtea 6y ago
    >I know plenty of "aging ravers" who are well into their 50s and 60s Sure, my point wasn't that they don't exist, but that it's a sad clinging. >Just because a community formed around a common (possibly frivolous) interest doesn't make it "not a real community" In my book it does. For one it makes it exclusionary. And what when you lose interest in the "frivolous interest" later? You lose the friends or alienate some of them? That's not much of a community then to begin with. >And why even gatekeep what makes a good community? Shouldn't I rather ask this question to you? After all, you're the one who accepts a community that's gatekeeping based on an interest!
    - furfags_go_away 6y ago
      It's so much worse than that, too. Look up "Kero the Wolf" sometime. But prepare a barf bag before you do. Kero is the true face of the furry fandom. They're all perverts that want to have sex with animals and/or children.

throw_24537147 6y ago

From the Site Guidelines: > Please don't post insinuations about astroturfing, shilling, brigading, foreign agents and the like. It degrades discussion and is usually mistaken. If you're worried about abuse, email hn@ycombinator.com and we'll look at the data. You may mean well with your comment, but the last paragraph is clearly not in spirit of the HN site guidelines.

coldtea 6y ago

>Furries started as a sexual fantasy like The Colbert Report started as a serious news show. It didn't. The Colbert Report was intended to satirize news outlets like Fox, but art imitates life and you gotta talk about the real world at one point or another. Furries started as panels and room parties at science fiction cons and guess what, humans do this thing where art imitates life and is a reflection of of humanity at large. I don't think many care. It's a pop-culture, one of the random interests people adopt to feel "different" in the 20th/21st century (I guess kind of like "occult circles" in the 19th century or similar). How would one feel about a 30-40 year old "goth"? Exactly. In the juvenile 21st century culture it might be considered an acceptable passtime for someone over 20-22, but in the end it's no better than being a "goth", a "biker", a "raver", a "b-boy", a "trekie", a "new ager" or similar cringe-worthy identities people cling on to find a community in the absense of a real community of people. Real community being the variety that focuses on the actual character, personality, work, and behavior -- not on people having some niche affiliation/interest in order to be included.

a_t48 6y ago
I know plenty of "aging ravers" who are well into their 50s and 60s (and for that matter - yes, goths over 30, too). Just because a community formed around a common (possibly frivolous) interest doesn't make it "not a real community". I'm part of a certain music community - the actual music itself isn't the draw to me (not to say I don't like it, but it's definitely not my favorite) - it's the kindness of the people. If I might ask - what kind of community are you a part of, and why does it make it better than the community I'm part of? And why even gatekeep what makes a good community?
- furfags_go_away 6y ago
  Is your community formed entirely based on zoophilia, pedophilia, and hardcore pornography? https://ganker.com/discord-has-a-furry-pedophile-problem/ https://ganker.com/discord-has-a-furry-pedophile-problem/ https://kiwifarms.net/threads/kero-the-wolf-joshua-hoffman-keroyamimora-yami-the-wolf.48033/ https://kiwifarms.net/threads/kero-the-wolf-joshua-hoffman-k...
- coldtea 6y ago
  >I know plenty of "aging ravers" who are well into their 50s and 60s Sure, my point wasn't that they don't exist, but that it's a sad clinging. >Just because a community formed around a common (possibly frivolous) interest doesn't make it "not a real community" In my book it does. For one it makes it exclusionary. And what when you lose interest in the "frivolous interest" later? You lose the friends or alienate some of them? That's not much of a community then to begin with. >And why even gatekeep what makes a good community? Shouldn't I rather ask this question to you? After all, you're the one who accepts a community that's gatekeeping based on an interest!
  - furfags_go_away 6y ago
    It's so much worse than that, too. Look up "Kero the Wolf" sometime. But prepare a barf bag before you do. Kero is the true face of the furry fandom. They're all perverts that want to have sex with animals and/or children.