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Put yourself in the shoes of someone who wants to send these articles to their manager to support an idea/project of theirs. It absolutely detracts from the pro

by jbob2000 6y ago

Put yourself in the shoes of someone who wants to send these articles to their manager to support an idea/project of theirs. It absolutely detracts from the professionalism of the post. Any joe-schmo can string together smart sounding words. You need to signal to me that I need to take these words seriously, and when you mix in your otherworldly passions, I can’t take them seriously, it’s too unfamiliar to me. Aside from that, what it is about the anime and furry culture that pushes its participants to include it in everything? Every once in a while, I see a post on the cringe subreddit of some young man who has peppered anime and fursonas all throughout a school presentation. What is driving the need to include this in everything?

some_furry 6y ago
> Put yourself in the shoes of someone who wants to send these articles to their manager to support an idea/project of theirs. It absolutely detracts from the professionalism of the post. I, as a hobbyist who blogs about things in my spare time for my own amusement, owe no obligation to random people's managers. In 99.9999% of cases, that also includes my own manager at my place of work. (And even then, my only obligation is to not talk about things that aren't meant to be discussed publicly.) > Every once in a while, I see a post on the cringe subreddit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePnrEolRopU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePnrEolRopU > What is driving the need to include this in everything? I've answered this on my about page. https://soatok.blog/about/ https://soatok.blog/about/
- throw_24537147 6y ago
  You seem really self-centered and immature in this comment. Sure, you owe no obligation to other people... so why bother giving to charity or helping strangers out of bad situations? If we take your position to its logical conclusion, we end up in a very nihilistic and sociopathic society. Is that what you really want to advocate for? I sincerely doubt any furries could survive for very long in such a world.
filoleg 6y ago
>What is driving the need to include this in everything? This is just an armchair psychology theory, but I feel like it is just the need for social validation in the absence of it, as well as an attempt to prove that their interests/passions that are considered to be for "weird" or childish people can belong to "normal" adult people too. Hence why they never forget to remind people at any point in a regular discussion about that interest, as if it is a regular everyday thing that a lot of people are into. And in the meantime, it is also sort of an interest/passion that isn't about an activity (very unlike most other interests/passions), but rather about being a different entity as a person, which makes it more difficult to detach yourself from that interest, as it literally is solely about being another form of yourself. Overall, I agree with your sentiment however. Having furry content in a technical blog post would essentially prevent me from sharing it with my teammates, no matter how good the actual technical content of that post is.
- some_furry 6y ago
  > Having furry content in a technical blog post would essentially prevent me from sharing it with my teammates, no matter how good the actual technical content of that post is. I don't disbelieve you, but I do have a question! Why? Why is furry/anime/whatever inherently disqualifying, regardless of the quality of the technical content? (n.b. None of the art is adult-oriented, if that's what you're worried about. I made an editorial decision on day one to keep the artwork featured on my blog 100% worksafe, even if the discussions aren't always.) Is it a fear that "Nobody will take me seriously"? This didn't stop the EFF. https://twitter.com/EFF/status/1307037184780832769 https://twitter.com/EFF/status/1307037184780832769
  - jbob2000 6y ago
    It’s disqualifying because, in the case of furries, it started as a sexual fantasy. Much of the furry community sees fursonas as a sexual choice. If you included pictures of scantily clad people in all of your posts, I would also hesitate to send it to my manager. Anime has a huge sexual following as well. There’s an entire industry around printing anime girls onto body pillows for these fans to sleep with, for example.
munificent 6y ago
> Put yourself in the shoes of someone who wants to send these articles to their manager to support an idea/project of theirs. That is, frankly, your problem and not the author's. The author has already taken the time to distill their knowledge into text, put it online, and allowed you free access to it. > It absolutely detracts from the professionalism of the post. From the author's perspective that may be a feature not a bug. Maybe they don't want to come across as professional. It's their writing and their little corner of the Internet. They can create as they please. > You need to signal to me that I need to take these words seriously No, they need do no such thing. If you want to extract value from what they've already taken the time to create and share, it's up to you to figure out how. You're a grown-up. If you can't figure out whether text is enriching and useful to you or not without it being presented with just the right imagery, color, and font, that's on you. > and when you mix in your otherworldly passions, I can’t take them seriously, it’s too unfamiliar to me. This is a good sentence. Here you are correctly articulating that it is you who is having trouble assimilating the content they've shared. That's your choice. They have the freedom to put it out there and you have the freedom to ignore it if it's not to your taste. Everyone can do what they choose and everyone wins, for their own personal definition of "win". > Aside from that, what it is about the anime and furry culture that pushes its participants to include it in everything? Every once in a while, I see a post on the cringe subreddit of some young man who has peppered anime and fursonas all throughout a school presentation. What is driving the need to include this in everything? It's an important part of their identity and one that has fairly broad negative connotations. They rationally want to normalize it so that they can be their best fully-actualized self without having to deal with shame or criticism like your comment here.
- pmiller2 6y ago
  I agree with this post 100%. If a technical post solves my problems, as long as the images are SFW and not too distracting, I'm good with it. Even if they are a bit distracting, that's what reader mode is for, isn't it?
GoblinSlayer 6y ago
I understand, wrong thought undermines conformism. Though I don't find idea sharing to be a problem, I just speak from myself, I don't get knowledge from one source and a manager won't read a wall of technical text anyway.

some_furry 6y ago

> Put yourself in the shoes of someone who wants to send these articles to their manager to support an idea/project of theirs. It absolutely detracts from the professionalism of the post. I, as a hobbyist who blogs about things in my spare time for my own amusement, owe no obligation to random people's managers. In 99.9999% of cases, that also includes my own manager at my place of work. (And even then, my only obligation is to not talk about things that aren't meant to be discussed publicly.) > Every once in a while, I see a post on the cringe subreddit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePnrEolRopU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePnrEolRopU > What is driving the need to include this in everything? I've answered this on my about page. https://soatok.blog/about/ https://soatok.blog/about/

throw_24537147 6y ago
You seem really self-centered and immature in this comment. Sure, you owe no obligation to other people... so why bother giving to charity or helping strangers out of bad situations? If we take your position to its logical conclusion, we end up in a very nihilistic and sociopathic society. Is that what you really want to advocate for? I sincerely doubt any furries could survive for very long in such a world.

filoleg 6y ago

>What is driving the need to include this in everything? This is just an armchair psychology theory, but I feel like it is just the need for social validation in the absence of it, as well as an attempt to prove that their interests/passions that are considered to be for "weird" or childish people can belong to "normal" adult people too. Hence why they never forget to remind people at any point in a regular discussion about that interest, as if it is a regular everyday thing that a lot of people are into. And in the meantime, it is also sort of an interest/passion that isn't about an activity (very unlike most other interests/passions), but rather about being a different entity as a person, which makes it more difficult to detach yourself from that interest, as it literally is solely about being another form of yourself. Overall, I agree with your sentiment however. Having furry content in a technical blog post would essentially prevent me from sharing it with my teammates, no matter how good the actual technical content of that post is.

some_furry 6y ago
> Having furry content in a technical blog post would essentially prevent me from sharing it with my teammates, no matter how good the actual technical content of that post is. I don't disbelieve you, but I do have a question! Why? Why is furry/anime/whatever inherently disqualifying, regardless of the quality of the technical content? (n.b. None of the art is adult-oriented, if that's what you're worried about. I made an editorial decision on day one to keep the artwork featured on my blog 100% worksafe, even if the discussions aren't always.) Is it a fear that "Nobody will take me seriously"? This didn't stop the EFF. https://twitter.com/EFF/status/1307037184780832769 https://twitter.com/EFF/status/1307037184780832769
- jbob2000 6y ago
  It’s disqualifying because, in the case of furries, it started as a sexual fantasy. Much of the furry community sees fursonas as a sexual choice. If you included pictures of scantily clad people in all of your posts, I would also hesitate to send it to my manager. Anime has a huge sexual following as well. There’s an entire industry around printing anime girls onto body pillows for these fans to sleep with, for example.

munificent 6y ago

> Put yourself in the shoes of someone who wants to send these articles to their manager to support an idea/project of theirs. That is, frankly, your problem and not the author's. The author has already taken the time to distill their knowledge into text, put it online, and allowed you free access to it. > It absolutely detracts from the professionalism of the post. From the author's perspective that may be a feature not a bug. Maybe they don't want to come across as professional. It's their writing and their little corner of the Internet. They can create as they please. > You need to signal to me that I need to take these words seriously No, they need do no such thing. If you want to extract value from what they've already taken the time to create and share, it's up to you to figure out how. You're a grown-up. If you can't figure out whether text is enriching and useful to you or not without it being presented with just the right imagery, color, and font, that's on you. > and when you mix in your otherworldly passions, I can’t take them seriously, it’s too unfamiliar to me. This is a good sentence. Here you are correctly articulating that it is you who is having trouble assimilating the content they've shared. That's your choice. They have the freedom to put it out there and you have the freedom to ignore it if it's not to your taste. Everyone can do what they choose and everyone wins, for their own personal definition of "win". > Aside from that, what it is about the anime and furry culture that pushes its participants to include it in everything? Every once in a while, I see a post on the cringe subreddit of some young man who has peppered anime and fursonas all throughout a school presentation. What is driving the need to include this in everything? It's an important part of their identity and one that has fairly broad negative connotations. They rationally want to normalize it so that they can be their best fully-actualized self without having to deal with shame or criticism like your comment here.

pmiller2 6y ago
I agree with this post 100%. If a technical post solves my problems, as long as the images are SFW and not too distracting, I'm good with it. Even if they are a bit distracting, that's what reader mode is for, isn't it?

GoblinSlayer 6y ago

I understand, wrong thought undermines conformism. Though I don't find idea sharing to be a problem, I just speak from myself, I don't get knowledge from one source and a manager won't read a wall of technical text anyway.