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I read a good portion of the FAA's preliminary report that came out a couple months ago. They are completely incompetent. The report didn't include ANY data a

I read a good portion of the FAA's preliminary report that came out a couple months ago. They are completely incompetent. The report didn't include ANY data about rate of failure of AoA sensors, number of engagements of MCAS in the field, or number of flights where the plane was landed without MCAS enabled. It contained vague statements like 'rare set of circumstances' with ZERO data on the expected probability. As we know in the software world, a 1 in a billion chance could happen many times per interval given the scale of any particular problem. I'm never stepping foot on a MAX.

bgorman 6y ago
Yeah it is really sad, but Alaska Airlines and Southwest airlines may become untouchable for me in the future if they proceed to integrate the MAX back into their fleet. I will never fly on that plane
- blackflame7000 6y ago
  The 737NG had 3 verified crashes and 4 additional suspected crashes due to a rudder issue before it was solved and you flew on that plane. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_737_rudder_issues https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_737_rudder_issues
  - cs278 6y ago
    Per the article two crashes which were of 737-200/300 (i.e first and second gen) not 737NG.
    - blackflame7000 6y ago
      Does it matter? The 737 wasn't cancelled back then after 2 crashes. Point is that they solved the problem and the plane went on to fly successfully and the public forgot about it. They didn't second question the entire aircraft design over one fault like we are doing today.
      - linuxftw 6y ago
        Wrong. They didn't solve the problem. A pilot that happened to press the opposite rudder pedal saved the plane. They were only able to 'solve' the problem after someone heroically saved a plane full of people by doing the exact wrong thing intentionally. The FAA deserves exactly 0 credit for that, as they were willing to let more people die.

bgorman 6y ago

Yeah it is really sad, but Alaska Airlines and Southwest airlines may become untouchable for me in the future if they proceed to integrate the MAX back into their fleet. I will never fly on that plane

blackflame7000 6y ago
The 737NG had 3 verified crashes and 4 additional suspected crashes due to a rudder issue before it was solved and you flew on that plane. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_737_rudder_issues https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_737_rudder_issues
- cs278 6y ago
  Per the article two crashes which were of 737-200/300 (i.e first and second gen) not 737NG.
  - blackflame7000 6y ago
    Does it matter? The 737 wasn't cancelled back then after 2 crashes. Point is that they solved the problem and the plane went on to fly successfully and the public forgot about it. They didn't second question the entire aircraft design over one fault like we are doing today.
    - linuxftw 6y ago
      Wrong. They didn't solve the problem. A pilot that happened to press the opposite rudder pedal saved the plane. They were only able to 'solve' the problem after someone heroically saved a plane full of people by doing the exact wrong thing intentionally. The FAA deserves exactly 0 credit for that, as they were willing to let more people die.