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https://www.npr.org/2019/06/19/734248714/pilots-criticize-boeing-saying-737-max-should-never-have-been-approved https://www.npr.org/2019/06/19/734248714/pilots-

https://www.npr.org/2019/06/19/734248714/pilots-criticize-boeing-saying-737-max-should-never-have-been-approved https://www.npr.org/2019/06/19/734248714/pilots-criticize-bo... > [Chesley] Sullenberger says he recently experienced scenarios similar to those facing the pilots of the doomed Ethiopian and Lion Air jetliners in a simulator and says he understands the difficulties they had trying to maintain control of the planes. "Even knowing what was going to happen, I could see how crews could have run out of time and altitude before they could have solved the problems," he said.

kube-system 6y ago
For sure, the issue is bad, should be resolved, and should have never been certified in the first place. But given the amount of attention the problem has received from all stakeholders, I think any further worries about MCAS from the flying public are misguided. The least likely thing to kill you is usually the issue that everyone is thinking about and is actively working to mitigate. Mechanical issues are especially terrifying because they remove any sense of human agency, but the good thing is that humans are good at fixing them. Human fallibility is a much tougher problem to solve and is still by far the most common reason airplanes crash.
blackflame7000 6y ago
Turns out pilots were able to successfully save their aircraft in this situation if they recognized the symptoms of runaway trim quickly enough https://qz.com/1576597/off-duty-pilot-saved-lion-airs-737-max-the-day-before-its-fatal-flight/ https://qz.com/1576597/off-duty-pilot-saved-lion-airs-737-ma...
- ashtonkem 6y ago
  If the plane tries to crash itself during take off, it’s only a matter of time before a pilot doesn’t react quickly enough to prevent the plane from killing everyone on board. Blaming the pilot for not reacting quickly enough is really to miss the point. Really the plane shouldn’t be trying to dive into the ground after takeoff, this is an undesirable property for an airplane to have. The fact that the same plane kept repeatedly trying to plow itself into the ground after takeoff really underscores the basic premise that the 737 Max is a bad aircraft, and should have never been certified.

kube-system 6y ago

For sure, the issue is bad, should be resolved, and should have never been certified in the first place. But given the amount of attention the problem has received from all stakeholders, I think any further worries about MCAS from the flying public are misguided. The least likely thing to kill you is usually the issue that everyone is thinking about and is actively working to mitigate. Mechanical issues are especially terrifying because they remove any sense of human agency, but the good thing is that humans are good at fixing them. Human fallibility is a much tougher problem to solve and is still by far the most common reason airplanes crash.

blackflame7000 6y ago

Turns out pilots were able to successfully save their aircraft in this situation if they recognized the symptoms of runaway trim quickly enough https://qz.com/1576597/off-duty-pilot-saved-lion-airs-737-max-the-day-before-its-fatal-flight/ https://qz.com/1576597/off-duty-pilot-saved-lion-airs-737-ma...

ashtonkem 6y ago
If the plane tries to crash itself during take off, it’s only a matter of time before a pilot doesn’t react quickly enough to prevent the plane from killing everyone on board. Blaming the pilot for not reacting quickly enough is really to miss the point. Really the plane shouldn’t be trying to dive into the ground after takeoff, this is an undesirable property for an airplane to have. The fact that the same plane kept repeatedly trying to plow itself into the ground after takeoff really underscores the basic premise that the 737 Max is a bad aircraft, and should have never been certified.