> I think you underestimate the value of virility. Maybe. I think it varies with age group, as I was saying. I think people in their teen's and 20's are more i

> I think you underestimate the value of virility. Maybe. I think it varies with age group, as I was saying. I think people in their teen's and 20's are more interested in what's cool/hip. Certainly, for social services in that teen/20's demographic, I think you're right. Older people, people with spouses, people with young children, people with mortgages, people with established careers and groups of friends and clubs and routines. Well, I think maybe the value of virility is less there. I'm not saying it's a good thing.