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Thank you for articulating this comment. As I said before, I am really not a fan of some of Graham's out-there ideas, but actual archaeologists have been wrong

Thank you for articulating this comment. As I said before, I am really not a fan of some of Graham's out-there ideas, but actual archaeologists have been wrong time after time, and most people don't realize that it is not a hard science. This crowd of scientists (and their supporters) like to hand wave people like Graham away by labeling them with the "pseudo" moniker, as if nothing he says has any value. Throwing the baby with the bath water.

goto11 6y ago
> actual archaeologists have been wrong time after time Of course, that is the nature of science and research. My question is, what is it Graham has been right about where archeologist have been wrong?
- ncmncm 6y ago
  Any honest historian will admit Göbekli Tepe is the most astonishing find in a century. Hancock has been talking for decades about an expectation to find constructions exactly that old, i.e. coincident with major sea level rise. Similarly, major early civilization in the Americas. Similarly, a continental-scale catastrophe in the Americas in near pre-history. Similarly, miles of construction under 60+ ft of water off India. His methods are not respected and the ideas are often not, initially, his own ("journalist", remember), but he does get around, and his "pseudo-science" has an uncanny way of becoming ordinary science. His ideas (sudden pole shifts, comets synchronized to earth's rotational precession) are often very, very wrong, but science is equipped to handle wrong.
  - goto11 6y ago
    Göbekli Tepe was discovered by actual archeologists as far as I know.
    - ncmncm 6y ago
      It was discovered by locals, dug up by archaeologists, and predicted by literally no one but Hancock.
      - goto11 6y ago
        He predicted Göbekli Tepe would be there before it was found? That is amazing.
        ncmncm 6y ago
        He predicted megalithic construction dating to the Holocene boundary. He didn't say where. Revisionism insisting that GT was not absolutely astonishing to historians and archaeoligists is properly met with derision. Of course, we don't know where else it will turn up, although India or Pakistan would be a good bet, and northwestern South America, by his expectations.

goto11 6y ago

> actual archaeologists have been wrong time after time Of course, that is the nature of science and research. My question is, what is it Graham has been right about where archeologist have been wrong?

ncmncm 6y ago
Any honest historian will admit Göbekli Tepe is the most astonishing find in a century. Hancock has been talking for decades about an expectation to find constructions exactly that old, i.e. coincident with major sea level rise. Similarly, major early civilization in the Americas. Similarly, a continental-scale catastrophe in the Americas in near pre-history. Similarly, miles of construction under 60+ ft of water off India. His methods are not respected and the ideas are often not, initially, his own ("journalist", remember), but he does get around, and his "pseudo-science" has an uncanny way of becoming ordinary science. His ideas (sudden pole shifts, comets synchronized to earth's rotational precession) are often very, very wrong, but science is equipped to handle wrong.
- goto11 6y ago
  Göbekli Tepe was discovered by actual archeologists as far as I know.
  - ncmncm 6y ago
    It was discovered by locals, dug up by archaeologists, and predicted by literally no one but Hancock.
    - goto11 6y ago
      He predicted Göbekli Tepe would be there before it was found? That is amazing.
      - ncmncm 6y ago
        He predicted megalithic construction dating to the Holocene boundary. He didn't say where. Revisionism insisting that GT was not absolutely astonishing to historians and archaeoligists is properly met with derision. Of course, we don't know where else it will turn up, although India or Pakistan would be a good bet, and northwestern South America, by his expectations.