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Sometimes I look at Adobe's stock history in awe and then realize the only thing that has really changed over the years is that they moved from a license model

by tempsy 6y ago

Sometimes I look at Adobe's stock history in awe and then realize the only thing that has really changed over the years is that they moved from a license model to a SaaS model...so instead of paying a few hundred dollars for a Photoshop license you can use for life you get to pay $50/mo for a bundle forever.

biztos 6y ago
Or you pay $10/mo for Photoshop + the twelve current versions of Lightroom. I don't get much use out of them but I still think it's an OK deal. At least as good a deal as a lot of the other SaaS stuff I'm paying for and barely using. If I were using any of their stuff professionally I would find it an awesome deal, not least because it's all a clean expense. [Edit: Clarity]
greggman3 6y ago
I hate it but you arguably couldn't use them for life unless you wanted to run some old version of the OS they came out on in a VM. OSes change, the deprecate and remove old features. You can't run Photoshop CS6 (the last non SaaS version) on Catalina. In the past I got by on 1 upgrade every 4 years or about $50 a year. Now it's $120 a year. Before the incentives were aligned. Add new amazing features or I'm not upgrading. Now the incentives are not aligned. The more money they spend on dev the less money they make. The are 100s of features I see on cheap or free iOS image editing apps I'd have expected to see long ago in Photoshop or Lightroom but Adobe no longer has any incentive to add features. As just one example, the features of the Focos app. Being able to create an AI generated depth mask would be extremely useful in Photoshop. I'm sure you can make excuses why this isn't a valid data point but look at Wikipedia's Photoshop feature list by version. Notice how before SaaS each version shows about 4-5 paragraphs of new features, after SaaS each version is just a single paragraph of mostly minor re-workings of existing features https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Photoshop#Version_history https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Photoshop#Version_histor...
- CincinnatiMan 6y ago
  I'm still using Photoshop 7 on my Windows machine. Google tells me that was released in 2002 haha!

by tempsy 6y ago

biztos 6y ago

Or you pay $10/mo for Photoshop + the twelve current versions of Lightroom. I don't get much use out of them but I still think it's an OK deal. At least as good a deal as a lot of the other SaaS stuff I'm paying for and barely using. If I were using any of their stuff professionally I would find it an awesome deal, not least because it's all a clean expense. [Edit: Clarity]

greggman3 6y ago

I hate it but you arguably couldn't use them for life unless you wanted to run some old version of the OS they came out on in a VM. OSes change, the deprecate and remove old features. You can't run Photoshop CS6 (the last non SaaS version) on Catalina. In the past I got by on 1 upgrade every 4 years or about $50 a year. Now it's $120 a year. Before the incentives were aligned. Add new amazing features or I'm not upgrading. Now the incentives are not aligned. The more money they spend on dev the less money they make. The are 100s of features I see on cheap or free iOS image editing apps I'd have expected to see long ago in Photoshop or Lightroom but Adobe no longer has any incentive to add features. As just one example, the features of the Focos app. Being able to create an AI generated depth mask would be extremely useful in Photoshop. I'm sure you can make excuses why this isn't a valid data point but look at Wikipedia's Photoshop feature list by version. Notice how before SaaS each version shows about 4-5 paragraphs of new features, after SaaS each version is just a single paragraph of mostly minor re-workings of existing features https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Photoshop#Version_history https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Photoshop#Version_histor...

CincinnatiMan 6y ago
I'm still using Photoshop 7 on my Windows machine. Google tells me that was released in 2002 haha!