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Fallout 76 was an unmitigated disaster and absolute embarrassment to the studio however [1]. [1]: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kjyeCdd-dl8 https://m.youtube.c

by tmpz22 6y ago

Fallout 76 was an unmitigated disaster and absolute embarrassment to the studio however [1]. [1]: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kjyeCdd-dl8 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kjyeCdd-dl8

mattmanser 6y ago
So? Lots of studios have flops. The point is they've had plenty more successes since Skyrim. I even forgot to mention DOOM and Prey. And don't forget, FO76 wasn't even made by the main studio. Adding the back catalogue to gamepass (and probably taking it all off steam), is part of the price too. Hell, if the price was $7.5 billion even after the FO76 flop, what would it have been if they'd pulled it off? Making a whole new type of MMO.
- WorldMaker 6y ago
  Fallout 76 is even the exact sort of "live service" game that seems to do really well on Xbox Game Pass. (Sea of Thieves is often mentioned by Microsoft as a gold standard live service game that exceeds exceeds "sales expectations" precisely because of Game Pass; it probably wouldn't have sold as much as it has without Game Pass.) Rumors are that when Bethesda put FO76 on Game Pass the player count went way up, though Microsoft remains mysterious about actual Game Pass numbers, and FO76 also released a major expansion pack and cross-play at the same time, so if those rumors are true it may not just have been Game Pass but the confluence of things.
chillwaves 6y ago
That video is a year and a half old. I hear the game has improved since then, but I haven't tried it myself.
ohyeshedid 6y ago
So was No Man's Sky when it came out. Though rare, sometimes studios do the right thing over time. FO76 seems to be having a better second act.
- psyc 6y ago
  See also, Final Fantasy XIV. From disaster to IMO one of the most magnificent games ever created.
- shultays 6y ago
  I think comparison is a bit unfair since nms is (mostly) single player while fo76 is not. If nms gets good (i believe it is good btw, I play it regularly on VR) it would still sell 5 years later but fo76 would be dead if it can't keep up player count high. So yeah, a failed multiplayer/mmo game is a bigger failure imo, because it is hard/impossible to recover from

by tmpz22 6y ago

Fallout 76 was an unmitigated disaster and absolute embarrassment to the studio however [1]. [1]: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kjyeCdd-dl8 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kjyeCdd-dl8

mattmanser 6y ago

So? Lots of studios have flops. The point is they've had plenty more successes since Skyrim. I even forgot to mention DOOM and Prey. And don't forget, FO76 wasn't even made by the main studio. Adding the back catalogue to gamepass (and probably taking it all off steam), is part of the price too. Hell, if the price was $7.5 billion even after the FO76 flop, what would it have been if they'd pulled it off? Making a whole new type of MMO.

WorldMaker 6y ago
Fallout 76 is even the exact sort of "live service" game that seems to do really well on Xbox Game Pass. (Sea of Thieves is often mentioned by Microsoft as a gold standard live service game that exceeds exceeds "sales expectations" precisely because of Game Pass; it probably wouldn't have sold as much as it has without Game Pass.) Rumors are that when Bethesda put FO76 on Game Pass the player count went way up, though Microsoft remains mysterious about actual Game Pass numbers, and FO76 also released a major expansion pack and cross-play at the same time, so if those rumors are true it may not just have been Game Pass but the confluence of things.

chillwaves 6y ago

That video is a year and a half old. I hear the game has improved since then, but I haven't tried it myself.

ohyeshedid 6y ago

So was No Man's Sky when it came out. Though rare, sometimes studios do the right thing over time. FO76 seems to be having a better second act.

psyc 6y ago
See also, Final Fantasy XIV. From disaster to IMO one of the most magnificent games ever created.
shultays 6y ago
I think comparison is a bit unfair since nms is (mostly) single player while fo76 is not. If nms gets good (i believe it is good btw, I play it regularly on VR) it would still sell 5 years later but fo76 would be dead if it can't keep up player count high. So yeah, a failed multiplayer/mmo game is a bigger failure imo, because it is hard/impossible to recover from