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Facebook Says It Will Stop Operating in Europe If Regulators Don’t Back Down
- cratermoon 6y agoIs that a threat, or a promise? Seriously, though, I hope the regulators hold the line.
- raffraffraff 6y agoOh please oh please oh please oh please leave. ...but they won't because tax breaks and ad revenue. Call their bluff regulators!
- the_hoser 6y agoMan, Europeans get all the nice things...
- 1f60c 6y agoDon't threaten me with a good time!
- xibalba 6y agoI'm no Facebook apologist, but Facebook's response seems to (reasonably) point out that Ireland's DPC doesn't appear to be well functioning: > "Facebook was given only three weeks to respond ... [and] wasn’t contacted about the inquiry prior to judgment being handed down" > "... one person [Helen Dixon, Ireland’s data protection commissioner] is responsible for the entire process" > "... no other big tech company using similar methods to transfer data to the U.S. from the EU is under the same scrutiny."
- flatfilefan 6y agoI wonder how much merit this objections have in a larger scheme of things. The original complaint from Mr Schrems is dating from 2013. Last few years he was chasing the DPC to merely start acting on the first court decision against FB. So it’s not like the case is new to FB. They actually mention all that in their submission.
- amadeuspagel 6y agoEvery single comment in this thread as I'm writing this is some version of "wouldn't it be great if facebook left". I don't use facebook, but I can't fathom the arrogance of wanting to destroy something that billions of people use, of thinking you know better then all these people how they should spend their time.
- the_hoser 6y agoThis isn't like a brand of beer or car that you don't like going under. Facebook has deep effects on all of us, even if we never use it. They don't wait for you to create an account to start gathering data about you.
- amadeuspagel 6y ago> This isn't like a brand of beer or car that you don't like going under. Facebook has deep effects on all of us, even if we never use it. Good point, but that's true for many things. Including beer[1] and cars[2], come to think of it. We live in a society, and anything that our fellow humans do has effects on us. I'm not saying that just because lots of people drink beer, drive cars and use facebook, these things can't be critized, but it still seems arrogant to cheer for the destruction of something so many people use. > They don't wait for you to create an account to start gathering data about you. I don't really have an answer to this other then saying that I don't see the problem with it. We are all gathering data about each other all the time. And there's a lot of software that does this at scale, like a search engine. [1] Prohibition was mainly justified with the problems alcoholics caused for others, not their own suffering. [2] Probably the first example of a radical monopoly, lots of concern about crime and a breakdown of trust.
- the_hoser 6y agoYou're using whataboutism on a colossal scale to argue against the attack on a single bad actor. It's not possible to address all bad actors simultaneously. Some bad actors will be sorted out quicker than others. The order in which they get sorted out is not intended to be fair.