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> We made lots of progress in treating the new disease (covid) while the baseline of pneumonia/influenza death is stable or even decreasing. What's troubling yo

> We made lots of progress in treating the new disease (covid) while the baseline of pneumonia/influenza death is stable or even decreasing. What's troubling you here ? Nothing is troubling me. I am curious to understand why flu deaths > COVID deaths. I think this is interesting enough for a curious mind to want to further explore. I agree that we got better at treating COVID today than 6 months ago, but has it improved THIS MUCH that it explains flu deaths to be more than COVID deaths for 3 months now? If that was true, then why would COVID ever become more deadly than flu again? Seems like a very unlikely reason which you've provided and I find it slightly unsatisfactory as it doesn't make quite sense. > "A death can be registered with both COVID-19 and Influenza and Pneumonia mentioned on the death certificate. Because pneumonia may be a consequence of COVID-19, deaths where both were mentioned have been counted only in the COVID-19 category." This just further highlights the strangeness about the higher number of influenza deaths than COVID deaths, because it proves the point that if someone was tested positive for both, they will be counted as a COVID death, so possibly hiding an even higher flu death rate at the moment.

lm28469 6y ago
> why would COVID ever become more deadly than flu again? We're still in the middle of a partial (or full in some cities) lockdown, if we stopped the numbers would most likely go up again. Don't forget that the peak of death at the beginning was due to high number of cases + hospitals being completely unprepared to handle it + no idea on how to treat the disease itself. I don't see anything that can't be explained by very restrictive measures (lockdown + masks) + better understanding and treatment of covid tbh.
- dustinmoris 6y ago
  Either I don't get what you try to say, or you don't get my question. I am not sure where we talk past each other so I'll try to re-clarify my question. I'm not interested to understand why COVID deaths have come down. That's quite obvious to me. I'm also not interested why flu deaths have come down, that's also quite obvious to me. I'm interested why flu deaths are currently higher than COVID deaths. Measures to fight COVID are also applicable to flu, so things like lockdown + masks do not explain why flu deaths are higher than COVID deaths, despite COVID being more virulent and more deadly. I hope my question makes more sense :)
  - lm28469 6y ago
    You'd need better stats to assert that though, you can die of pneumonia without having the flu. We don't know how many people got the flu vs pneumonia

lm28469 6y ago

> why would COVID ever become more deadly than flu again? We're still in the middle of a partial (or full in some cities) lockdown, if we stopped the numbers would most likely go up again. Don't forget that the peak of death at the beginning was due to high number of cases + hospitals being completely unprepared to handle it + no idea on how to treat the disease itself. I don't see anything that can't be explained by very restrictive measures (lockdown + masks) + better understanding and treatment of covid tbh.

dustinmoris 6y ago
Either I don't get what you try to say, or you don't get my question. I am not sure where we talk past each other so I'll try to re-clarify my question. I'm not interested to understand why COVID deaths have come down. That's quite obvious to me. I'm also not interested why flu deaths have come down, that's also quite obvious to me. I'm interested why flu deaths are currently higher than COVID deaths. Measures to fight COVID are also applicable to flu, so things like lockdown + masks do not explain why flu deaths are higher than COVID deaths, despite COVID being more virulent and more deadly. I hope my question makes more sense :)
- lm28469 6y ago
  You'd need better stats to assert that though, you can die of pneumonia without having the flu. We don't know how many people got the flu vs pneumonia