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This is what Ive shifted to as well. Trades are much more useful in life, because you can't pay to get a job done right, and paying anyone else at all is far to
by devwastaken 6y ago
This is what Ive shifted to as well. Trades are much more useful in life, because you can't pay to get a job done right, and paying anyone else at all is far too expensive.
For most people you have the reality of needing a 40 hour week job to live, and there's plenty of people who spent the 4 years to get a bachelor's in compsci and nobody cares to hire them. Software is volatile, you can spend plenty of time making something that will not work and won't be at all useful.
Reality is the software job market sucks, and people have to learn how to build their own houses or else become stuck as rent slaves.
- nicbou 6y agoI disagree. I really enjoy woodworking, but it's definitely not to save money. Same for working on motorcycles. The former is rendered useless by economies of scale, the latter by the cost of my garage and tools.
- devwastaken 6y agoWoodworking is apart of a series of skills that transfer to other useful trades. Hard to make buildings if you don't know how the basics of how wood works.
- nicbou 6y agoI didn't pick up woodworking to build a house. If that was my goal, sticking to programming would be the fastest way to get a house built. My ability to make money from programming far exceeds my ability to save money by doing anything else. If it was about the money, I wouldn't rent a garage, fill it with tools and spend my weekends building subpar furniture for twice the cost (a common woodworking trope). I'd just have it shipped to my door.
- bcrosby95 6y agoI probably average to about $50/hour programming. Last time I hired someone to fix something in my house I ended up paying about $350 for 1.5 hours of work. Physical materials was just a low voltage cable. I had a plumber quote me $1300 to replace a $250 part that just screws on/off. I did it myself in a few hours. Since I work on salary, one of the best ways for me to get more money is to save mine by not paying overpriced contractors to fix things around my house.
- nicbou 6y agoThat's of course assuming that you are already skilled and equipped enough to do the job yourself. If you're starting from scratch, you'll end up saving below minimum wage by doing it yourself. Besides, if you're already working 40 hours a week, the remaining time is much more valuable, because it's relatively scarce. Not everyone is comfortable spending their evenings doing extra work.
- citizenpaul 6y agoI had the same exp. I had a house with copper pipes and I thought well I don't want to learn welding.... What does the plumber do? Exactly what I would have done after watching a couple youtube vides -$500 in labor. He didn't even try to repair the pipe he just cut it and used push on PEX connectors something I could have done myself.
- devwastaken 6y agoOkay, good for you, as I said in my original post the job market for software is not generally that good, and the vast majority of people work low paying jobs.
- nicbou 6y agoThis is why I used the first person, as in specifically me and not everyone.