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No end to end encryption is deal breaker for most.
by anthropodie 6y ago
No end to end encryption is deal breaker for most.
- anoncake 6y agoI doubt that is true and anyway Telegram does have end to end encryption.
- robjan 6y agoIt does but not by default and it only works between two specific devices.
- dogma1138 6y agoTelegram still uses MTProto which was criticized for making quite a few odd choices. It’s odd that people would recommend it over say Signal.
- ffpip 6y agoSignal cannot be even compared to Telegram. they are different. Telegram is Discord+Messenger, but on steroids.
- anoncake 6y agoSignal is openly hostile to alternative clients, making it hardly better than other corporations' offerings.
- dogma1138 6y agoAlternative client without being to independently verify their correctness do not fit the trust model of Signal or any of the chat systems.
- anoncake 6y agoI don't care why Signal tramples on its users' freedom.
- dogma1138 6y agoIt doesn’t, you aren’t compelled to use Signal, I care that the clients I’m talking to are conform to the spec and don’t expose myself to side channel attacks (e.g. previewing content directly from the client)
- anoncake 6y agoFortunately, I'm not. But due to the nature of messengers, I likely would if Signal became popular. If you don't want others to use a client of their choice for some (real or imagined) security benefits, that's between you and them. I think most people will think your priorities are silly.
- antihero 6y agoI'd say Telegram is probably the "nicest" app I've used for messaging. WhatsApp and Messenger are Ok. Signal, whilst being idealistically the best, is spartan, kinda ugly, and lacks many features that make messaging "fun".
- ffpip 6y agoHe is switching from messenger. It's not exactly leading the way in privacy. Signal is not alternative to Messenger. Signal is an alternative to whatsapp.