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Oh no. Anyway, lets' hope this happens, would be very interesting to see Facebook pulling out of Europe.

by tadasZ 6y ago

anthropodie 6y ago
I hope it does and hopefully if https://okuna.io https://okuna.io times their release properly we might finally have some sort of alternative to fb. Edit: Introduction https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGrP80GVkW4&feature=youtu.be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGrP80GVkW4&feature=youtu.be
- rusk 6y ago
  I followed that link and was faced with a sign-up page and some fairly generic blurb. It might be the BEST SOCIAL NETWORK EVER but to get my attention I need to see what it does and what people are doing with it. The thing that facebook does, and that it needs to to better is integrate with the wider internet. What we need is geocities with apps and messaging.
  - anthropodie 6y ago
    It's in 'invites only' mode. People who have been following it since inception know they have been doing some good work. Besides they are not ready for public yet and hence not so much info on sign up page which I think is completely fine.
    - rusk 6y ago
      I'm not giving out. I'm just saying what I think needs to be done to get my interest. Maybe that's not important. Maybe as you say they're not into getting my attention just yet, and that's fine too. EDIT I suppose in the context of this discussion it is important to remember that for the first while, Facebook too was invite-only, it didn't do them any harm, but on the other hand is Orkut still around?
scotty79 6y ago
I hope they'll be able to continue providing Messenger. It's a successor of skype for me
- ffpip 6y ago
  Telegram is much better than Messenger. Why don't you use it? Plus there are ton's of more features. Like so many, its hard to keep up. It's ad free and open source.
  - richthegeek 6y ago
    The answer to this question is always "network effects". No-one that I know uses Telegram.
    - ffpip 6y ago
      Why don't you be the first one? https://telegram.org https://telegram.org Once you start using it, you will never go back. It's awesome compared to Skype and messenger.
      - anoncake 6y ago
        Yes, you will go back, because using a messenger alone is kind of pointless.
        deleted 6y ago
        [deleted]
    - mercer 6y ago
      Telegram has been picking up steam in my wide network. It's been surprising to me how easy it was, as an early adopter, to convince people to use it. It doesn't work with everyone; WhatsApp dominates around here. But in the tens of people that I care to communicate with have happily switched to Telegram for much of their chatting.
  - 6y ago
alexmingoia 6y ago
I like Facebook. How about we let people use the websites and apps they want to?
- deathgrips 6y ago
  I like Standard Oil. How about we let people buy from the businesses they want to?
  - alexmingoia 6y ago
    Yeah, letting people buy from businesses they choose sounds good. Standard oil was a great company, that benefited consumers by driving down costs and improving the efficiency of oil production and distribution. Prices fell from ~30 cents to ~5 cents per gallon between 1870-1900, and when they were broken up by the government they had more than 100 competitors, and only ~65% market share.
    - cecja 6y ago
      It was a great company before or after they tried to weasel their way out of the responsibility of leaded fuel?
    - 411111111111111 6y ago
      They were benefiting shareholders and consumers of that age at the detriment of society. Slavery also invigorates the markets with cheap produce for consumers and high profits for shareholders. Shall we legalize that as well? Nothing is easy in reality and you can find positive effects to the markets in almost anything if you just look at localized effects
- rusk 6y ago
  People are being let. It's Facebook who are saying they will exercise their liberty by exiting the EU market because they don't want to obey the law.
  - alexmingoia 6y ago
Just1689 6y ago
Maybe I understood that wrong. I couldn't get past the paywall so there's that too. Can't Facebook keep EU data in the EU and "deploy" ADs to the various regions? I'm not sure I understand why the data has to go the the US. The only thing I can image is that AI models are better with larger data sets. But even then it's not too awful to have an EU ML model and another for the rest of the world. Is it enough to exit the whole EU market?
mercer 6y ago
I so much hope this happens. For me and a surprising number of my peers (25+) Facebook is just that thing you sort of have to use. Not as bad as LinkedIn, but that's not saying much. Most of us prefer to chat via WhatsApp (yes, I know it's also FB, but I hope that'll disappear too) or Telegram. I'd love to see more people move to Telegram. Most of us preferred to use meetup.com or the like for events, but Facebook just kind of sucked all the air out of that world. Without Facebook there might be a chance for new initiatives to take over. The one thing FB still seems to do best around here is business listings and everything around that. But I'd also love to see startups take on this area when there isn't a Facebook to dominate.

Oh no. Anyway, lets' hope this happens, would be very interesting to see Facebook pulling out of Europe.

by tadasZ 6y ago

Oh no. Anyway, lets' hope this happens, would be very interesting to see Facebook pulling out of Europe.

I hope it does and hopefully if https://okuna.io https://okuna.io times their release properly we might finally have some sort of alternative to fb. Edit: Introduction https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGrP80GVkW4&feature=youtu.be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGrP80GVkW4&feature=youtu.be

rusk 6y ago
I followed that link and was faced with a sign-up page and some fairly generic blurb. It might be the BEST SOCIAL NETWORK EVER but to get my attention I need to see what it does and what people are doing with it. The thing that facebook does, and that it needs to to better is integrate with the wider internet. What we need is geocities with apps and messaging.
- anthropodie 6y ago
  It's in 'invites only' mode. People who have been following it since inception know they have been doing some good work. Besides they are not ready for public yet and hence not so much info on sign up page which I think is completely fine.
  - rusk 6y ago
    I'm not giving out. I'm just saying what I think needs to be done to get my interest. Maybe that's not important. Maybe as you say they're not into getting my attention just yet, and that's fine too. EDIT I suppose in the context of this discussion it is important to remember that for the first while, Facebook too was invite-only, it didn't do them any harm, but on the other hand is Orkut still around?

scotty79 6y ago

I hope they'll be able to continue providing Messenger. It's a successor of skype for me

ffpip 6y ago
Telegram is much better than Messenger. Why don't you use it? Plus there are ton's of more features. Like so many, its hard to keep up. It's ad free and open source.
- richthegeek 6y ago
  The answer to this question is always "network effects". No-one that I know uses Telegram.
  - ffpip 6y ago
    Why don't you be the first one? https://telegram.org https://telegram.org Once you start using it, you will never go back. It's awesome compared to Skype and messenger.
    - anoncake 6y ago
      Yes, you will go back, because using a messenger alone is kind of pointless.
      - deleted 6y ago
        [deleted]
  - mercer 6y ago
    Telegram has been picking up steam in my wide network. It's been surprising to me how easy it was, as an early adopter, to convince people to use it. It doesn't work with everyone; WhatsApp dominates around here. But in the tens of people that I care to communicate with have happily switched to Telegram for much of their chatting.
- 6y ago

alexmingoia 6y ago

I like Facebook. How about we let people use the websites and apps they want to?

deathgrips 6y ago
I like Standard Oil. How about we let people buy from the businesses they want to?
- alexmingoia 6y ago
  Yeah, letting people buy from businesses they choose sounds good. Standard oil was a great company, that benefited consumers by driving down costs and improving the efficiency of oil production and distribution. Prices fell from ~30 cents to ~5 cents per gallon between 1870-1900, and when they were broken up by the government they had more than 100 competitors, and only ~65% market share.
  - cecja 6y ago
    It was a great company before or after they tried to weasel their way out of the responsibility of leaded fuel?
  - 411111111111111 6y ago
    They were benefiting shareholders and consumers of that age at the detriment of society. Slavery also invigorates the markets with cheap produce for consumers and high profits for shareholders. Shall we legalize that as well? Nothing is easy in reality and you can find positive effects to the markets in almost anything if you just look at localized effects
rusk 6y ago
People are being let. It's Facebook who are saying they will exercise their liberty by exiting the EU market because they don't want to obey the law.
- alexmingoia 6y ago

Just1689 6y ago

Maybe I understood that wrong. I couldn't get past the paywall so there's that too. Can't Facebook keep EU data in the EU and "deploy" ADs to the various regions? I'm not sure I understand why the data has to go the the US. The only thing I can image is that AI models are better with larger data sets. But even then it's not too awful to have an EU ML model and another for the rest of the world. Is it enough to exit the whole EU market?

mercer 6y ago

I so much hope this happens. For me and a surprising number of my peers (25+) Facebook is just that thing you sort of have to use. Not as bad as LinkedIn, but that's not saying much. Most of us prefer to chat via WhatsApp (yes, I know it's also FB, but I hope that'll disappear too) or Telegram. I'd love to see more people move to Telegram. Most of us preferred to use meetup.com or the like for events, but Facebook just kind of sucked all the air out of that world. Without Facebook there might be a chance for new initiatives to take over. The one thing FB still seems to do best around here is business listings and everything around that. But I'd also love to see startups take on this area when there isn't a Facebook to dominate.