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> it was not about honing skills or becoming perfect, it was about learning and "building a kitchen" We must have different priors regarding OP's specific exam

by dlkf 6y ago

> it was not about honing skills or becoming perfect, it was about learning and "building a kitchen" We must have different priors regarding OP's specific example. I think that "building a kitchen" would require a hell of a lot of skill, all of which needs to be honed over a decent period of time. I'm 100% confident that given an empty room, building materials, tools, and some appliances, I would do more harm than good.

teraku 6y ago
No, I think we just have a different view on what knowledge, skills and proficiencies means. I'm not saying experience is irrelevant, I'm saying you can teach somebody the skills to use tools and the proficiency to build a kitchen and he would afterwards be able to build a kitchen, even though his experience is very little. I'm not saying it will be the best kitchen in the world, neither am I saying the teaching process will be super fast (it depends on teacher and pupil), but I am saying that it is first and foremost not about the age and experience of the trainee, who then later attempts to build the kitchen.
kebman 6y ago
I'm 100% confident that given an empty room, building materials, tools, and some appliances – and an infinite amount of time – I would make a masterpiece on the first try. (I attribute this skill to LEGO, of course...) ;) So guys like that do exist. Orson Wells is one such a guy, just to drop one name from the arts. I'm saying this because I have experience cleaning up after "professionals" who did a worse job then I did, despite purportedly having "experience". I sadly have more than one such examples. (Perhaps I'm in the wrong line of work?) On the other hand, since we're actually discussing a statistical problem here, it should be pretty clear that guys like Orson Wells inhabit the tail of the distribution.

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> it was not about honing skills or becoming perfect, it was about learning and "building a kitchen" We must have different priors regarding OP's specific exam

by dlkf 6y ago

teraku 6y ago
No, I think we just have a different view on what knowledge, skills and proficiencies means. I'm not saying experience is irrelevant, I'm saying you can teach somebody the skills to use tools and the proficiency to build a kitchen and he would afterwards be able to build a kitchen, even though his experience is very little. I'm not saying it will be the best kitchen in the world, neither am I saying the teaching process will be super fast (it depends on teacher and pupil), but I am saying that it is first and foremost not about the age and experience of the trainee, who then later attempts to build the kitchen.
kebman 6y ago
I'm 100% confident that given an empty room, building materials, tools, and some appliances – and an infinite amount of time – I would make a masterpiece on the first try. (I attribute this skill to LEGO, of course...) ;) So guys like that do exist. Orson Wells is one such a guy, just to drop one name from the arts. I'm saying this because I have experience cleaning up after "professionals" who did a worse job then I did, despite purportedly having "experience". I sadly have more than one such examples. (Perhaps I'm in the wrong line of work?) On the other hand, since we're actually discussing a statistical problem here, it should be pretty clear that guys like Orson Wells inhabit the tail of the distribution.