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Don't forget: - yubikey And those of us working on electronics routinely connect another bunch of devices: - logic analyzers - oscilloscopes - JTAG interfa

by jwr 6y ago

Don't forget: - yubikey And those of us working on electronics routinely connect another bunch of devices: - logic analyzers - oscilloscopes - JTAG interfaces - USB microscope - dev board interfaces - android embedded devices - multimeters That's why I'm so annoyed by manufacturers (hi Apple) reducing port counts and moving to USB-C only.

cogburnd02 6y ago
I do stuff with electronics & retrocomputing so add on top of that a bunch of USB->serial adapters to connect to old hardware; let's see Apple //e TRS-80 Model 100 Vt330 terminal Plusdeck 2c cassette tape deck Lego serial IR tower for RCX Serial port for self-built cheap arduino clone (an NKC electronics freeduino serial) ( http://web.archive.org/web/20100131051737/http://mcukits.com/2009/03/12/assembling-the-freeduino-serial-v10-board/ http://web.archive.org/web/20100131051737/http://mcukits.com... ) cable to connect TI calculators (I have a USB version of this too, though, so I don't need to use a USB-to-serial converter with my old serial cable based one.) And that's just what comes to mind right now, I'm sure there are more.
Bud 6y ago
Apple didn't move to USB-C only; they moved to the vastly-superior Thunderbolt 3. (Which, yes, is a superset of USB-C.) Furthermore, that's just on laptops, since USB-A ports no longer fit in Apple's increasingly-thin designs. The iMac still has four USB-A ports, right now, today. The Mac mini still has two USB-A ports. The Mac Pro can have dozens of USB-A ports, if you want them.
- jwr 6y ago
  USB-C is the connector. It can support various functionalities, including Thunderbolt 3, but you can't tell that from looking at the port or cable. Also, I don't care about Thunderbolt 3. I don't have a single peripheral that supports it. What I do have is tens of devices that use USB, mostly 2.0. > USB-A ports no longer fit in Apple's increasingly-thin designs That is not true for all designs. Apple would have no problem fitting USB-A ports in MacBook Pros.
  - Bud 6y ago
    False. That proves you have not looked at the current MB Pro design. You are also blithely assuming there is space inside the case to just randomly add backwards-compatible shit that we all need to move on from in order to enable and promote more capable interfaces. If you have "tens of devices" you need to plug into your computer at once, then stop buying laptops or get a USB hub. This isn't complex. No laptop ever designed, in history, would allow you to plug in that much USB-A stuff at once without buying adapters or a hub, etc. So stop bitching at Apple about irrelevant stuff that Apple isn't to blame for.

by jwr 6y ago

cogburnd02 6y ago

I do stuff with electronics & retrocomputing so add on top of that a bunch of USB->serial adapters to connect to old hardware; let's see Apple //e TRS-80 Model 100 Vt330 terminal Plusdeck 2c cassette tape deck Lego serial IR tower for RCX Serial port for self-built cheap arduino clone (an NKC electronics freeduino serial) ( http://web.archive.org/web/20100131051737/http://mcukits.com/2009/03/12/assembling-the-freeduino-serial-v10-board/ http://web.archive.org/web/20100131051737/http://mcukits.com... ) cable to connect TI calculators (I have a USB version of this too, though, so I don't need to use a USB-to-serial converter with my old serial cable based one.) And that's just what comes to mind right now, I'm sure there are more.

Bud 6y ago

Apple didn't move to USB-C only; they moved to the vastly-superior Thunderbolt 3. (Which, yes, is a superset of USB-C.) Furthermore, that's just on laptops, since USB-A ports no longer fit in Apple's increasingly-thin designs. The iMac still has four USB-A ports, right now, today. The Mac mini still has two USB-A ports. The Mac Pro can have dozens of USB-A ports, if you want them.

jwr 6y ago
USB-C is the connector. It can support various functionalities, including Thunderbolt 3, but you can't tell that from looking at the port or cable. Also, I don't care about Thunderbolt 3. I don't have a single peripheral that supports it. What I do have is tens of devices that use USB, mostly 2.0. > USB-A ports no longer fit in Apple's increasingly-thin designs That is not true for all designs. Apple would have no problem fitting USB-A ports in MacBook Pros.
- Bud 6y ago
  False. That proves you have not looked at the current MB Pro design. You are also blithely assuming there is space inside the case to just randomly add backwards-compatible shit that we all need to move on from in order to enable and promote more capable interfaces. If you have "tens of devices" you need to plug into your computer at once, then stop buying laptops or get a USB hub. This isn't complex. No laptop ever designed, in history, would allow you to plug in that much USB-A stuff at once without buying adapters or a hub, etc. So stop bitching at Apple about irrelevant stuff that Apple isn't to blame for.