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Exxon had their own state of the art climate science department. Way back in 1982 they accurately predicted that in 2020 co2 would be around 415ppm and there wo

Exxon had their own state of the art climate science department. Way back in 1982 they accurately predicted that in 2020 co2 would be around 415ppm and there would be about 1C of warming. At a time when the average person had never even heard of global warming Exxon had already confirmed their product was irreversibly damaging the planet and shortly thereafter shuttered their science program and began spending millions a year funding public influence campaigns to sew doubt misinformation, and turn the issue into a political wedge. Of course the companies are vastly more culpable than the public. The average person is far too busy trying to keep their lives in order to educate themselves on a highly complicated scientific issue. Especially when much of the population lives within a subculture that would turn on them and ridicule them if they did look into the issue deeply because the fossil fuel PR machine managed to co-opt all of their political and cultural leaders. The corporations had the information, the clarity, and the opportunity to do the right thing. Instead they chose to poison the discourse and stymie progress any way they could. edit: Exxon accurately predicted 1C of warming by 2020 not 2C

LifeIsThermal 6y ago
As I understand, Oil companies only reviewed other scientists theories, they didn´t do research themselves. At the end of the day it will come down to you lowering your living standards by using less energy. Much less energy. And a really large reduction in living standard where everything you consume will cost at least double of what you pay today. Even if you blame the fossile fuel industry, you will have to pay. Oil is the cheapest energy there is. You have the choice today to stop all your emission of co2, so why don´t you? Because it´s uncomfortable. Your comfort is the cause of climate change. I´m fortunate enough to realize that climate change caused by co2 is a thermodynamic impossibility because it implies that earth heats itself by energy creation. Life is much easier without believing in doomsday cults.
- breakyerself 6y ago
  That's bullshit. There is a myriad of ways to get energy without fossil fuels. Wind and Solar are both cheaper than coal now and electric cars are like 97% efficient compared to ICE cars that are closer to 40%. We can replace the fossil fuel energy we use and add more to meet growing demand using wind, solar, nuclear, geothermal, tidal, etc. We need a price on carbon and we need people to get their heads out of their own ass. Also you're understanding of the thermodynamics of climate change are completely bat shit.
- breakyerself 6y ago
  Exxon HAD ITS OWN CLIMATE SCIENCE PROGRAM which was outfitted with better equipment than most government programs. They weren't just reviewing other scientists theories.

LifeIsThermal 6y ago

As I understand, Oil companies only reviewed other scientists theories, they didn´t do research themselves. At the end of the day it will come down to you lowering your living standards by using less energy. Much less energy. And a really large reduction in living standard where everything you consume will cost at least double of what you pay today. Even if you blame the fossile fuel industry, you will have to pay. Oil is the cheapest energy there is. You have the choice today to stop all your emission of co2, so why don´t you? Because it´s uncomfortable. Your comfort is the cause of climate change. I´m fortunate enough to realize that climate change caused by co2 is a thermodynamic impossibility because it implies that earth heats itself by energy creation. Life is much easier without believing in doomsday cults.

breakyerself 6y ago
That's bullshit. There is a myriad of ways to get energy without fossil fuels. Wind and Solar are both cheaper than coal now and electric cars are like 97% efficient compared to ICE cars that are closer to 40%. We can replace the fossil fuel energy we use and add more to meet growing demand using wind, solar, nuclear, geothermal, tidal, etc. We need a price on carbon and we need people to get their heads out of their own ass. Also you're understanding of the thermodynamics of climate change are completely bat shit.
breakyerself 6y ago
Exxon HAD ITS OWN CLIMATE SCIENCE PROGRAM which was outfitted with better equipment than most government programs. They weren't just reviewing other scientists theories.