I took a lot of heat for that in a recent thread. There's really no convincing Rust's most vocal fans what a mistake it was to focus on fixing so few of C++'s

I took a lot of heat for that in a recent thread. There's really no convincing Rust's most vocal fans what a mistake it was to focus on fixing so few of C++'s problems when they had the opportunity to fix the its-grammar-is-dogshit problem (and slow compiles times) in the same stroke but completely failed to do so. (Votes were all over the place. At one point that comment was up 10–15 points IIRC even with some opposition, until the Aucklanders woke up and buried it in downvotes. And that was when I was being a lot more polite about it than I am now.) C++ programmers seem to have a permanently altered sense of what constitutes "tastefulness". Every time I think of the ugliness of Rust, I'm reminded of the comments from Stallman where he acknowledges the elegance of Java as an evolution of C's syntax, even though he never reached for Java for himself, having always stuck to C and Lisp instead. Then he goes on to trash C++.