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They had giant medical tents which were constructed and then ended up being quickly torn down. They had the USS comfort. The predicted hospital overrun scenari

They had giant medical tents which were constructed and then ended up being quickly torn down. They had the USS comfort. The predicted hospital overrun scenario never happened. One hospital in NY would be full to the brim, but a nearby hospital would be at 50% capacity. It was a shuffling problem at best. No, what happened here was the hysteria got so severe that irrational decisions were made to try to mitigate a problem that didn’t truly exist.

ceejayoz 6y ago
> They had giant medical tents which were constructed and then ended up being quickly torn down. Staffing was a problem. Tents don't magically make doctors and nurses arrive. Travel nurses were being offered $10k/week to come. https://nurse.org/articles/new-york-travel-nurse-jobs-covid19-incentives/ https://nurse.org/articles/new-york-travel-nurse-jobs-covid1... > They had the USS comfort. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/02/nyregion/ny-coronavirus-usns-comfort.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/02/nyregion/ny-coronavirus-u... "On top of its strict rules preventing people infected with the virus from coming on board, the Navy is also refusing to treat a host of other conditions. Guidelines disseminated to hospitals included a list of 49 medical conditions that would exclude a patient from admittance to the ship." "Ambulances cannot take patients directly to the Comfort; they must first deliver patients to a city hospital for a lengthy evaluation — including a test for the virus — and then pick them up again for transport to the ship." That's in early April. They later changed tack on those restrictions, but as of the order, those restrictions were still in place. https://nypost.com/2020/04/07/officials-underestimated-issues-facing-usns-comfort-to-fight-coronavirus/ https://nypost.com/2020/04/07/officials-underestimated-issue... “The ship is fitted out for battlefield injuries — it was not designed for dealing with a highly infectious and highly transmissible outbreak.” The USS Theodore Roosevelt later demonstrated just how bad the tight quarters of a ship can be for infection control. > The predicted hospital overrun scenario never happened. On March 25th, knowing that would've required time travel. The peak was still weeks away, and it was reasonable to worry about it; Italy hit that point in areas.
cm2187 6y ago
And I think when people were talking about hospitals being full, they were referring to ICUs. The rest of the hospital was essentially empty as every elective procedures had been cancelled, the mayo clinic was even furloughing workers.

ceejayoz 6y ago

> They had giant medical tents which were constructed and then ended up being quickly torn down. Staffing was a problem. Tents don't magically make doctors and nurses arrive. Travel nurses were being offered $10k/week to come. https://nurse.org/articles/new-york-travel-nurse-jobs-covid19-incentives/ https://nurse.org/articles/new-york-travel-nurse-jobs-covid1... > They had the USS comfort. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/02/nyregion/ny-coronavirus-usns-comfort.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/02/nyregion/ny-coronavirus-u... "On top of its strict rules preventing people infected with the virus from coming on board, the Navy is also refusing to treat a host of other conditions. Guidelines disseminated to hospitals included a list of 49 medical conditions that would exclude a patient from admittance to the ship." "Ambulances cannot take patients directly to the Comfort; they must first deliver patients to a city hospital for a lengthy evaluation — including a test for the virus — and then pick them up again for transport to the ship." That's in early April. They later changed tack on those restrictions, but as of the order, those restrictions were still in place. https://nypost.com/2020/04/07/officials-underestimated-issues-facing-usns-comfort-to-fight-coronavirus/ https://nypost.com/2020/04/07/officials-underestimated-issue... “The ship is fitted out for battlefield injuries — it was not designed for dealing with a highly infectious and highly transmissible outbreak.” The USS Theodore Roosevelt later demonstrated just how bad the tight quarters of a ship can be for infection control. > The predicted hospital overrun scenario never happened. On March 25th, knowing that would've required time travel. The peak was still weeks away, and it was reasonable to worry about it; Italy hit that point in areas.

cm2187 6y ago

And I think when people were talking about hospitals being full, they were referring to ICUs. The rest of the hospital was essentially empty as every elective procedures had been cancelled, the mayo clinic was even furloughing workers.