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Except he is wrong. The Supreme Court has ruled that such lockdowns are indeed constitutional and the States have the right to enforce them unless Congress int
by sjg007 6y ago
Except he is wrong. The Supreme Court has ruled that such lockdowns are indeed constitutional and the States have the right to enforce them unless Congress intervenes.
- DuskStar 6y agoWhen did the Supreme Court rule that? And why the hell would Congress be able to overrule states on something like this? What torturous reading of the Commerce Clause gives Congress the power to forbid lockdowns?
- inthewoods 6y agohttps://www.spotlightpa.org/news/2020/09/pa-coronavirus-orders-tom-wolf-unconstitutional-legal-analysis-john-roberts/ https://www.spotlightpa.org/news/2020/09/pa-coronavirus-orde... "U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts, in a similar case out of California related to pandemic restrictions on religious gatherings, wrote in May that elected officials should be allowed latitude when acting in areas “fraught with medical and scientific uncertainties” and should not be subject to second-guessing by an “unelected federal judiciary.”
- DuskStar 6y agoAnd wasn't that addressed in Stickman's ruling? There's a difference between "something that we can allow in an emergency" and "something that has been going on for 6 months and legally continues forever", like the situation in PA. Further, if there are medical and scientific uncertainties... Erring on the side of constitutional rights seems a LOT less potentially exploitable to me. If you think that something is so critical that you need to permanently remove rights to combat it... You should be able to back that up with incontrovertible evidence.
- jtbayly 6y agoIndefinitely such that it’s a new normal? No. Such is not constitutional. Edit to respond to downvotes: Nor was it constitutional to institute sweeping metadata collection as a new normal in response to an emergency situation. Nor is it constitutional to make encryption illegal as the new normal because of an emergency. Etc.
- just-juan-post 6y agoCould you please provide more information on this? If this is true it may change my congress and senate votes from blue to red. I won't vote in a presidential candidate that supports lockdowns "if the science supports it" and will make me wear a mask. Can his party truly make my state do these things? If so that's terrifying to me and there's no way I'm giving blue, the people I voted for all my life until this year, this type of power.
- rm_-rf_slash 6y agoDo you wear seatbelts?
- just-juan-post 6y agoSure let's talk about some related things: - Let's ban alcohol due to all the harm it does in the world and plus I, a non-drinker, don't want get hit by a drunk driver. It's better we just ban it all together and everyone will be safe - what do you say? - Next up is mandatory condoms! I mean there's no assurance that people won't spread AIDS so in the name of public health condoms are now mandatory. Enjoy! - Time for our old friend "unhealthy" food. Obesity makes my insurance premiums go up and it's well established that obesity is a social disease. Time to put an end to this too. - Ugh, smoking. All smoking will be banned because I can definitely smell that when the car ahead of me has a smoker in it. Ban this too. I think first up we should do alcohol, what do you say?
- liability 6y agoIf some new restrictive law saves Just One Life™ in a world of billions, then you'd have to be a murderous sociopath to oppose it!
- just-juan-post 6y agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXWhbUUE4ko https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXWhbUUE4ko Enjoy your Sunday