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This is the part where it become very subjective. I disagree that its a lot, to me is not a lot. Though i could understand that for some people even 1 death is

by matz1 6y ago

This is the part where it become very subjective. I disagree that its a lot, to me is not a lot. Though i could understand that for some people even 1 death is a lot.

jacquesm 6y ago
How much is a lot for you? A million? Two? At what level will you admit that you're just plain wrong about all this? Or is it all fine as long as you get through in one piece?
- matz1 6y ago
  Wrong about what? It is a fact that vast majority of cases are asymptomatic or only have mild symptoms. What about million people suffering due to lockdown? To you they should just endure it right? How about you, how much low is low to you ? 0 death ? 1 death ? How much is lockdown suffering is acceptable to you ?
  - jacquesm 6y ago
    So, no answer then. Ok.
- verylittlemeat 6y ago
  It's hard to define "a lot" for 2 reasons: 1. The human population is very large so even the smallest fraction is a sensational number. 2. Any death is a tragedy for someone, not the least the person who died. This creates a situation where you have lots of people talking past each other.
sp332 6y ago
Maybe it's easier to understand as a rate. Around the beginning of May, the all-causes mortality rate in the USA was about 50% higher than normal. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02497-w https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02497-w
cipher_system 6y ago
It sure sounds like a lot but historically its not, not yet anyway. This is a graph of historical deaths in Sweden which has a similar death rate as the US. https://twitter.com/PanData19/status/1297919439212552193/photo/1 https://twitter.com/PanData19/status/1297919439212552193/pho... While this year isn't over yet there has been years in my life time with worse death rates that went by completely unnoticed. Looking back in a couple of years I don't think people are gonna say that a lot of people died this year.

by matz1 6y ago

This is the part where it become very subjective. I disagree that its a lot, to me is not a lot. Though i could understand that for some people even 1 death is a lot.

jacquesm 6y ago

How much is a lot for you? A million? Two? At what level will you admit that you're just plain wrong about all this? Or is it all fine as long as you get through in one piece?

matz1 6y ago
Wrong about what? It is a fact that vast majority of cases are asymptomatic or only have mild symptoms. What about million people suffering due to lockdown? To you they should just endure it right? How about you, how much low is low to you ? 0 death ? 1 death ? How much is lockdown suffering is acceptable to you ?
- jacquesm 6y ago
  So, no answer then. Ok.
verylittlemeat 6y ago
It's hard to define "a lot" for 2 reasons: 1. The human population is very large so even the smallest fraction is a sensational number. 2. Any death is a tragedy for someone, not the least the person who died. This creates a situation where you have lots of people talking past each other.

sp332 6y ago

Maybe it's easier to understand as a rate. Around the beginning of May, the all-causes mortality rate in the USA was about 50% higher than normal. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02497-w https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02497-w

cipher_system 6y ago

It sure sounds like a lot but historically its not, not yet anyway. This is a graph of historical deaths in Sweden which has a similar death rate as the US. https://twitter.com/PanData19/status/1297919439212552193/photo/1 https://twitter.com/PanData19/status/1297919439212552193/pho... While this year isn't over yet there has been years in my life time with worse death rates that went by completely unnoticed. Looking back in a couple of years I don't think people are gonna say that a lot of people died this year.