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That is the thing -- mild symptoms is suuuuch a misleasing term -- sure, they were mild, but 20 days later and still tired, still caughing, stressing if that pa

by raducu 6y ago

That is the thing -- mild symptoms is suuuuch a misleasing term -- sure, they were mild, but 20 days later and still tired, still caughing, stressing if that pain I feel is just a muscle tiree from caughing or I'm actually getting lung fibrosis? That never happened before; my wife was alone at home with out 2.5 year old daughter unable to get up from the floor. My daughter started having a fever 2 days after I returned from hospital, 12 days after I started having symptoms, wave 3 of stress and worry. I barely slept during this time. I saw and heard a lot of examples of how quickly things can turn south in the hospital. How do you dispose of the trash when you're quarantined in a flat? There's so much more than the symptoms that will screw with you for this disease.

jacquesm 6y ago
It took me six months to get anywhere near my normal energy levels. I too would say I had a 'mild' case, still I was out for about 3 weeks completely.
- raducu 6y ago
  The first time I realised how wiped out I really was, was when I helped an older patient -- his bed was next to a curtainless window and I climbed up to improvise a curtain from a bedsheet -- I was panting for air. Up to that point it didn't register how tired I was, because I was just not doing anything physical.
  - jacquesm 6y ago
    I had a double pneumonia when I was 23 or so, that may have set me up for this one, I'll never know. But fortunately I knew to sleep on my belly to ensure my lungs don't drown, even so I had some pretty big dips in O2 saturation levels. After three weeks I was out and about but even the slightest exercise and I would be sweating like a pig and unable to take in enough air. Now it's as good as before, I've been super careful all summer and I hope to sit this one out without a re-infection. Hang in there, it will hopefully get better soon.
    - raducu 6y ago
      Dips in O2 can be very dangerous. I saw a 48 year old guy unable to put his oxygen nostrils back when his saturation read something like 85. I think he went ~72% before someone put his nostrils back and the nurse put him back on facemask + an additional O2 tank, besides the regulat O2 coming in the copper pipes. He kept saying he was fine, just sleepy. Glad you're ok now.
      - jacquesm 6y ago
        Pretty impressive how fast this hit. Compared to a 'normal' pneumonia which is comparable to a slow descent this was like falling off a cliff. Fine one moment and unable to do much of anything several hours later. Initial recovery seemed to go very well too but then this very strong fatigue just would not let go. I'm curious how other people have experienced their recovery, what phases they went through and how long each of those took.
arcticbull 6y ago
> That is the thing -- mild symptoms is suuuuch a misleasing term -- sure, they were mild, but 20 days later and still tired, still caughing, stressing if that pain I feel is just a muscle tiree from caughing or I'm actually getting lung fibrosis? You can get the exact same thing from the flu. I had a flu a few years ago that kept me coughing for 8 weeks.
- raducu 6y ago
  Yes, that is true, I know I keep coughing for a long time even after regular colds, but somehow this doesn't put my mind at ease at all.
matz1 6y ago
Its highly possible that the anxiety and stress would cause you more trouble then the virus itself. Then again, I had flu/cold before that is mild but feel horrible as I experienced it.
- arcticfox 6y ago
  Source? This is a virus killing a ton of people and leaving many more flat on their backs for weeks... To suggest that it's "highly possible" someone's symptoms are from anxiety is kind of insulting IMO.
  - matz1 6y ago
    >killing a ton of people its not. current best estimate of ifr according to cdc : 0-19 years: 0.00003 20-49 years: 0.0002 50-69 years: 0.005 70+ years: 0.054 Percent of infections that are asymptomatic: 40% https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scena... Which is a good news that so many the cases are asymptomatic and the ifr is so low. Which is also inline with my own observation, I know almost nobody get really sick from covid. I still go out whenever I can, still travel whenever I can, still doing normal socialization/gathering as I possibly still can.
    - sp332 6y ago
      That is a lot of people. 200,000 deaths already attributed to COVID-19 in the USA. That's 0.0006 of the entire population dead already. Is it good that it's not that contagious? Yes. Is it killing a lot of people? Also yes. All-causes mortality is up quite a bit too.
      - matz1 6y ago
        This is the part where it become very subjective. I disagree that its a lot, to me is not a lot. Though i could understand that for some people even 1 death is a lot.

by raducu 6y ago

jacquesm 6y ago

It took me six months to get anywhere near my normal energy levels. I too would say I had a 'mild' case, still I was out for about 3 weeks completely.

raducu 6y ago
The first time I realised how wiped out I really was, was when I helped an older patient -- his bed was next to a curtainless window and I climbed up to improvise a curtain from a bedsheet -- I was panting for air. Up to that point it didn't register how tired I was, because I was just not doing anything physical.
- jacquesm 6y ago
  I had a double pneumonia when I was 23 or so, that may have set me up for this one, I'll never know. But fortunately I knew to sleep on my belly to ensure my lungs don't drown, even so I had some pretty big dips in O2 saturation levels. After three weeks I was out and about but even the slightest exercise and I would be sweating like a pig and unable to take in enough air. Now it's as good as before, I've been super careful all summer and I hope to sit this one out without a re-infection. Hang in there, it will hopefully get better soon.
  - raducu 6y ago
    Dips in O2 can be very dangerous. I saw a 48 year old guy unable to put his oxygen nostrils back when his saturation read something like 85. I think he went ~72% before someone put his nostrils back and the nurse put him back on facemask + an additional O2 tank, besides the regulat O2 coming in the copper pipes. He kept saying he was fine, just sleepy. Glad you're ok now.
    - jacquesm 6y ago
      Pretty impressive how fast this hit. Compared to a 'normal' pneumonia which is comparable to a slow descent this was like falling off a cliff. Fine one moment and unable to do much of anything several hours later. Initial recovery seemed to go very well too but then this very strong fatigue just would not let go. I'm curious how other people have experienced their recovery, what phases they went through and how long each of those took.

arcticbull 6y ago

> That is the thing -- mild symptoms is suuuuch a misleasing term -- sure, they were mild, but 20 days later and still tired, still caughing, stressing if that pain I feel is just a muscle tiree from caughing or I'm actually getting lung fibrosis? You can get the exact same thing from the flu. I had a flu a few years ago that kept me coughing for 8 weeks.

raducu 6y ago
Yes, that is true, I know I keep coughing for a long time even after regular colds, but somehow this doesn't put my mind at ease at all.

matz1 6y ago

Its highly possible that the anxiety and stress would cause you more trouble then the virus itself. Then again, I had flu/cold before that is mild but feel horrible as I experienced it.

arcticfox 6y ago
Source? This is a virus killing a ton of people and leaving many more flat on their backs for weeks... To suggest that it's "highly possible" someone's symptoms are from anxiety is kind of insulting IMO.
- matz1 6y ago
  >killing a ton of people its not. current best estimate of ifr according to cdc : 0-19 years: 0.00003 20-49 years: 0.0002 50-69 years: 0.005 70+ years: 0.054 Percent of infections that are asymptomatic: 40% https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scena... Which is a good news that so many the cases are asymptomatic and the ifr is so low. Which is also inline with my own observation, I know almost nobody get really sick from covid. I still go out whenever I can, still travel whenever I can, still doing normal socialization/gathering as I possibly still can.
  - sp332 6y ago
    That is a lot of people. 200,000 deaths already attributed to COVID-19 in the USA. That's 0.0006 of the entire population dead already. Is it good that it's not that contagious? Yes. Is it killing a lot of people? Also yes. All-causes mortality is up quite a bit too.
    - matz1 6y ago
      This is the part where it become very subjective. I disagree that its a lot, to me is not a lot. Though i could understand that for some people even 1 death is a lot.