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I believe Greta Thunberg is someone put in place to EXERT authority. If you go to the meetings of the financial elite of the world, they have in their agenda e

I believe Greta Thunberg is someone put in place to EXERT authority. If you go to the meetings of the financial elite of the world, they have in their agenda exactly what GT wants: Taxing C02, forcing people to eat insects, because meat and fish is unsustainable... Greta is used to exert authority from those people in charge into the mass of the population. It is the reason media loves GT, because media is controlled by the big guys. A dangerous person would be some environmentalist that actually knows what he is talking about, and who is popular. Idealism is not a virtue per se(just dreaming about a better world without doing anything). I know quite a lot idealist that actually do all what they can to improve the world. They become realist because it is hard. It is one thing to say people should not abandon dogs and another thing creating a refuge for animals and expending all your money feeding and taking care of abandoned dogs, taking no vacations(because animals eat every day...)and so on. Realism is what happens when idealists take responsibility, and do something. Reality has limits, it is always finite what you can do, dreams could be perfect. Greta is just a kid that is angry(because she is ill) and is being manipulated from those in charge.

mynameishere 6y ago
Yeah, when the entire worldwide MSM pushes a pretty(esque) child to bleat some establishmentarian message, watch out. There's nothing healthy about that scenario.
jquery 6y ago
Bingo. You don’t get the platform Greta got because you’re a threat to the agenda...
pvaldes 6y ago
> A dangerous person would be some environmentalist that actually knows what he is talking about, and who is popular. This danger is inactivated. Not anymore. The day before yesterday, I meet a guy that told me that he is being sued by "ecologist activities" [sic] (after annoying a Guardia Civil repeatedly denouncing furtive hunting, I think)... and a spanish judge accepted the case. Simply surrealist. It seems that being ecologist is now illegal in the European Union He now must to pay in advance a 1000 euro legal bond, that obviously is the real objective here. To economically broke an environmentalist is really easy nowadays. If not you always can jail he/she abusing of a technical legal trivia
rtkaratekid 6y ago
Sorry to be nit picky, I get your greater point, but why do you say she’s “ill.” Seems like a precarious assumption and I’d assume that if this is verified by a psychologist they wouldn’t be announcing it to the world. Sometimes being angry is just being angry imho.
- thaumasiotes 6y ago
  She is on record as possessing many different psychological diagnoses. My personal view is that most such diagnoses are more "ways to buy official legal privileges for your child" and less actual problems, but if the route you go down to get special legal privileges is to get diagnosed with a bunch of "mental illnesses", I think it's fair for other people to criticize you in terms of being mentally ill. It's what you're telling them, after all.
elil17 6y ago
> If you go to the meetings of the financial elite of the world, they have in their agenda exactly what GT wants: Taxing C02, forcing people to eat insects, because meat and fish is unsustainable... Taxing CO2 is literally the last thing “the financial elites” want - it’s a policy that’s been pushed by scientists and economists for decades but never gained political traction due to an intense lobbying campaign from the oil and gas industry. That’s also not what Thunberg advocates for. Thunberg primarily advocates for more aggressive national emissions reductions targets. She says that her drastic personal lifestyle changes (e.g. being vegan) are meant to raise awareness about environmentalism, but that they are not a practical solution and that the responsibility for eliminating pollution lies with the rich and powerful, not consumers.
- disown 6y ago
  > Taxing CO2 is literally the last thing “the financial elites” want - it’s a policy that’s been pushed by scientists and economists for decades but never gained political traction due to an intense lobbying campaign from the oil and gas industry. Simply not true. "Scientists" didn't come up with carbon tax. Bankers did and they hired economists to peddle the idea. > That’s also not what Thunberg advocates for. Thunberg primarily advocates for more aggressive national emissions reductions targets. She says that her drastic personal lifestyle changes (e.g. being vegan) are meant to raise awareness about environmentalism, Ah yes, lets take advice from a 15 year old who knows absolutely nothing about anything. Climate fanatics scream "listen to the experts". Then then bring up a manipulated teen with obvious mental and emotional problems as their champion. You say "the rich and powerful" aren't backing them and yet every major organization from the UN to World Bank is pushing the "vegan" nonsense not to mention carbon tax. Remember "taxation without representation"? A global carbon tax is the epitome of that. So who is king george now and who are the ones advocating for it? If there is going to be a global tax, there should be a global government which has authority from the global population. Not just from greedy financiers who want another financial assets to leech money from the masses to line their pockets.
  - dwaltrip 6y ago
    How do your propose we manage the negative externality of co2 and ensure a good future? A carbon tax in one way of internalizing the costs of co2 that are currently not borne by any of the relevant market participants. It can also be done in a revenue neutral way with a matching “carbon dividend” that is given back to the citizens. Is there another effective way?
mrslave 6y ago
Late comment neither to agree nor disagree. Just want to add that Greta Thunberg is so obviously astroturfed, and just propaganda.

mynameishere 6y ago

Yeah, when the entire worldwide MSM pushes a pretty(esque) child to bleat some establishmentarian message, watch out. There's nothing healthy about that scenario.

jquery 6y ago

Bingo. You don’t get the platform Greta got because you’re a threat to the agenda...

pvaldes 6y ago

> A dangerous person would be some environmentalist that actually knows what he is talking about, and who is popular. This danger is inactivated. Not anymore. The day before yesterday, I meet a guy that told me that he is being sued by "ecologist activities" [sic] (after annoying a Guardia Civil repeatedly denouncing furtive hunting, I think)... and a spanish judge accepted the case. Simply surrealist. It seems that being ecologist is now illegal in the European Union He now must to pay in advance a 1000 euro legal bond, that obviously is the real objective here. To economically broke an environmentalist is really easy nowadays. If not you always can jail he/she abusing of a technical legal trivia

rtkaratekid 6y ago

Sorry to be nit picky, I get your greater point, but why do you say she’s “ill.” Seems like a precarious assumption and I’d assume that if this is verified by a psychologist they wouldn’t be announcing it to the world. Sometimes being angry is just being angry imho.

thaumasiotes 6y ago
She is on record as possessing many different psychological diagnoses. My personal view is that most such diagnoses are more "ways to buy official legal privileges for your child" and less actual problems, but if the route you go down to get special legal privileges is to get diagnosed with a bunch of "mental illnesses", I think it's fair for other people to criticize you in terms of being mentally ill. It's what you're telling them, after all.

elil17 6y ago

> If you go to the meetings of the financial elite of the world, they have in their agenda exactly what GT wants: Taxing C02, forcing people to eat insects, because meat and fish is unsustainable... Taxing CO2 is literally the last thing “the financial elites” want - it’s a policy that’s been pushed by scientists and economists for decades but never gained political traction due to an intense lobbying campaign from the oil and gas industry. That’s also not what Thunberg advocates for. Thunberg primarily advocates for more aggressive national emissions reductions targets. She says that her drastic personal lifestyle changes (e.g. being vegan) are meant to raise awareness about environmentalism, but that they are not a practical solution and that the responsibility for eliminating pollution lies with the rich and powerful, not consumers.

disown 6y ago
> Taxing CO2 is literally the last thing “the financial elites” want - it’s a policy that’s been pushed by scientists and economists for decades but never gained political traction due to an intense lobbying campaign from the oil and gas industry. Simply not true. "Scientists" didn't come up with carbon tax. Bankers did and they hired economists to peddle the idea. > That’s also not what Thunberg advocates for. Thunberg primarily advocates for more aggressive national emissions reductions targets. She says that her drastic personal lifestyle changes (e.g. being vegan) are meant to raise awareness about environmentalism, Ah yes, lets take advice from a 15 year old who knows absolutely nothing about anything. Climate fanatics scream "listen to the experts". Then then bring up a manipulated teen with obvious mental and emotional problems as their champion. You say "the rich and powerful" aren't backing them and yet every major organization from the UN to World Bank is pushing the "vegan" nonsense not to mention carbon tax. Remember "taxation without representation"? A global carbon tax is the epitome of that. So who is king george now and who are the ones advocating for it? If there is going to be a global tax, there should be a global government which has authority from the global population. Not just from greedy financiers who want another financial assets to leech money from the masses to line their pockets.
- dwaltrip 6y ago
  How do your propose we manage the negative externality of co2 and ensure a good future? A carbon tax in one way of internalizing the costs of co2 that are currently not borne by any of the relevant market participants. It can also be done in a revenue neutral way with a matching “carbon dividend” that is given back to the citizens. Is there another effective way?

mrslave 6y ago

Late comment neither to agree nor disagree. Just want to add that Greta Thunberg is so obviously astroturfed, and just propaganda.