I think I don't understand your argument here. ineedasername listed about a dozen industry-redefining products, which span a 40 year period. You seem to be ar

I think I don't understand your argument here. ineedasername listed about a dozen industry-redefining products, which span a 40 year period. You seem to be arguing that, because the innovative product continued to be sold with incremental improvements Apple is not innovative. * The point isn't that the 1995 Quadra is innovative. It's that the 1984 Mac brought the desktop metaphor to the masses (where it was previously a research toy with each seat costing as much as a house) * The point isn't that the 2020 iMac is innovative. It's that the 1997 iMac changed how the computer industry thought about the industrial design of home computers. * The point isn't that the 2020 iPhone 12 Max Excess is innovative. It's that the 2007 iPhone completely changed what a smartphone was, with multi-touch, on-screen keyboard, data plans that actually made sense, desktop-quality graphics and more. * The point isn't that the 2023 AirPods are going to be innovative. It's that the 2016 AirPods created an entire sub-industry of "totally wireless" headphones. The original point was the people hold Apple to a higher standard because Apple has a track record of introducing something every 3-6 years that makes people say "wow". That Apple continues to make incremental improvements after the "wow launch" doesn't diminish the track record of major innovation. Where I disagree with ineedasername is that I think it only looks like Apple isn't innovative right now because the next big thing hasn't been announced yet, and innovations don't happen on a fixed cadence.