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A Discussion of Li-Meng Yan's Paper on SARS-CoV-2

19 points by akvadrako 6y ago

gridlockd 6y ago
"It would be premature to draw any conclusion about the origins of the virus from this paper. But what is not premature is that social media giants deciding for us what is true and what is false may turn out to be as big a threat as the virus. It is unfair to dismiss ideas that one doesn't want to hear as “conspiracy theories” as many people are doing."
kichik 6y ago
It strikes me as somewhat disingenuous to not mention why this article was "cancelled" in the first place.
- gridlockd 6y ago
  It strikes me as disingenuous to "cancel" the article based on who funded it, as opposed to the arguments and the evidence that is presented, especially considering that publications that are ultimately funded through the Communist Party of China are not receiving that kind of scrutiny.
daly 6y ago
This Week in Virology, Episode 664, where virologists discuss this paper. Get an expert opinion. (https://www.microbe.tv/twiv/ https://www.microbe.tv/twiv/)
- srslack 6y ago
  >another bogus claim that the virus was produced in a laboratory (it came from Nature) Seems the "expert" opinion is entirely dismissive of any claims contradicting the narrative that it came entirely from nature/naturally selected. Despite the fact that this week, there's research showing the pangolin was ruled out as an intermediate, and the bat theory is totally absurd. I find other discussions[1] surrounding this far more compelling than an outright dismissal. Jumping to any conclusion, either way, is premature. But I'd hope we'd all agree that if it escaped from a lab when researchers were doing GoF research, that such research should be banned worldwide. And this apparently being the third lab escape in a decade from Chinese labs, that they are far more scrutinized. [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/ismdn7/unusual_features_of_the_sarscov2_genome/g5dcgw6/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 https://www.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/ismdn7/unusual_fea...
haunter 6y ago
Don't worry Twitter already suspended her account, all good. Just keep going and smile

19 points by akvadrako 6y ago

"It would be premature to draw any conclusion about the origins of the virus from this paper. But what is not premature is that social media giants deciding for us what is true and what is false may turn out to be as big a threat as the virus. It is unfair to dismiss ideas that one doesn't want to hear as “conspiracy theories” as many people are doing."

kichik 6y ago

It strikes me as somewhat disingenuous to not mention why this article was "cancelled" in the first place.

gridlockd 6y ago
It strikes me as disingenuous to "cancel" the article based on who funded it, as opposed to the arguments and the evidence that is presented, especially considering that publications that are ultimately funded through the Communist Party of China are not receiving that kind of scrutiny.

daly 6y ago

This Week in Virology, Episode 664, where virologists discuss this paper. Get an expert opinion. (https://www.microbe.tv/twiv/ https://www.microbe.tv/twiv/)

srslack 6y ago
>another bogus claim that the virus was produced in a laboratory (it came from Nature) Seems the "expert" opinion is entirely dismissive of any claims contradicting the narrative that it came entirely from nature/naturally selected. Despite the fact that this week, there's research showing the pangolin was ruled out as an intermediate, and the bat theory is totally absurd. I find other discussions[1] surrounding this far more compelling than an outright dismissal. Jumping to any conclusion, either way, is premature. But I'd hope we'd all agree that if it escaped from a lab when researchers were doing GoF research, that such research should be banned worldwide. And this apparently being the third lab escape in a decade from Chinese labs, that they are far more scrutinized. [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/ismdn7/unusual_features_of_the_sarscov2_genome/g5dcgw6/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 https://www.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/ismdn7/unusual_fea...

haunter 6y ago

Don't worry Twitter already suspended her account, all good. Just keep going and smile