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Its like the meme of sitting in a burning room and saying I'm fine. We are not fine. We are not good at all. We have moved so far to the right that the center o

Its like the meme of sitting in a burning room and saying I'm fine. We are not fine. We are not good at all. We have moved so far to the right that the center of 25 years past is now seen as extremist left.

amadeuspagel 6y ago
> We have moved so far to the right that the center of 25 years past is now seen as extremist left. Here's an example of the center 25 years ago, something Bill Clinton said in a state of the union address: > All Americans, not only in the States most heavily affected but in every place in this country, are rightly disturbed by the large numbers of illegal aliens entering our country. The jobs they hold might otherwise be held by citizens or legal immigrants. The public service they use impose burdens on our taxpayers. That's why our administration has moved aggressively to secure our borders more by hiring a record number of new border guards, by deporting twice as many criminal aliens as ever before, by cracking down on illegal hiring, by barring welfare benefits to illegal aliens. In the budget I will present to you, we will try to do more to speed the deportation of illegal aliens who are arrested for crimes, to better identify illegal aliens in the workplace as recommended by the commission headed by former Congresswoman Barbara Jordan. We are a nation of immigrants. But we are also a nation of laws. It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years, and we must do more to stop it. How would this be seen today? Extremist left or extremist right?
- conception 6y ago
  It’s “funny” you use an example of how Democrats went right as a counter example to things shifting to the right. Because it’s just highlighting exactly what was claimed. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Way https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Way
  - amadeuspagel 6y ago
    > It’s “funny” you use an example of how Democrats went right as a counter example to things shifting to the right. Because it’s just highlighting exactly what was claimed. It's “funny” that every counter example I could give to the claim that there was a shift to the right in the last 25 years actually just proves that there was as a shift to the right until the last 25 years, which then turns into "exactly what was claimed".
    - Fjolsvith 6y ago
      But isn't it that what has happened is the Democrat party has moved so far left that they've abandoned more centrist values, ceding ground to the right?

amadeuspagel 6y ago

> We have moved so far to the right that the center of 25 years past is now seen as extremist left. Here's an example of the center 25 years ago, something Bill Clinton said in a state of the union address: > All Americans, not only in the States most heavily affected but in every place in this country, are rightly disturbed by the large numbers of illegal aliens entering our country. The jobs they hold might otherwise be held by citizens or legal immigrants. The public service they use impose burdens on our taxpayers. That's why our administration has moved aggressively to secure our borders more by hiring a record number of new border guards, by deporting twice as many criminal aliens as ever before, by cracking down on illegal hiring, by barring welfare benefits to illegal aliens. In the budget I will present to you, we will try to do more to speed the deportation of illegal aliens who are arrested for crimes, to better identify illegal aliens in the workplace as recommended by the commission headed by former Congresswoman Barbara Jordan. We are a nation of immigrants. But we are also a nation of laws. It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years, and we must do more to stop it. How would this be seen today? Extremist left or extremist right?

conception 6y ago
It’s “funny” you use an example of how Democrats went right as a counter example to things shifting to the right. Because it’s just highlighting exactly what was claimed. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Way https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Way
- amadeuspagel 6y ago
  > It’s “funny” you use an example of how Democrats went right as a counter example to things shifting to the right. Because it’s just highlighting exactly what was claimed. It's “funny” that every counter example I could give to the claim that there was a shift to the right in the last 25 years actually just proves that there was as a shift to the right until the last 25 years, which then turns into "exactly what was claimed".
  - Fjolsvith 6y ago
    But isn't it that what has happened is the Democrat party has moved so far left that they've abandoned more centrist values, ceding ground to the right?