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Is there a good place to learn about new apple cultivars? I want to plant some apple trees, but since they would be in a backyard orchard there isn't any need f

Is there a good place to learn about new apple cultivars? I want to plant some apple trees, but since they would be in a backyard orchard there isn't any need for them to be commercially viable, just whatever tastes good. I know there are heirloom Apple orchards and festivals I can go to, but not sure where to find info on more modern cultivars beyond the ones like SnapDragon and Cosmic Crisp that have huge commercial releases. It's a lot easier to learn about things like North American Pawpaws and American persimmons, because there are only a couple people working on the genetics for each and you don't have millions of dollars worth of SEO spam preventing any useful information from surfacing.

pvaldes 6y ago
The most important thing to know about new apple cultivars is that they are treated exactly the same as models. With so much money at stake Photoshop is everywhere. You can find easily examples of applying skin filters to smooth surface in fruit images, or digitally manipulating the tone to obtain outstanding ink-black or blue-black apples... that of course, aren't real.
quercusa 6y ago
I'd encourage you look at some of the heirloom varieties that you'll never find in a grocery store. There are fantastic old apples that aren't a good fit for commercial production but are awesome in the back yard (depending where you live). Check out Esopus Spitzenberg or Cox's Orange Pippin.
- jdhn 6y ago
  Is there a preferred place to buy these heirloom varieties of apples?
  - quercusa 6y ago
    I bought some years ago from Raintree Nursery[0] and was very happy with them. Their selection seems smaller these days. Trees of Antiquity[1] seems to have a huge variety but I have no experience with them. [0] https://raintreenursery.com/collections/apple-trees https://raintreenursery.com/collections/apple-trees [1] https://www.treesofantiquity.com/collections/apple-trees https://www.treesofantiquity.com/collections/apple-trees (Earlier typo: Spitzenburg, not -berg)
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pvaldes 6y ago

The most important thing to know about new apple cultivars is that they are treated exactly the same as models. With so much money at stake Photoshop is everywhere. You can find easily examples of applying skin filters to smooth surface in fruit images, or digitally manipulating the tone to obtain outstanding ink-black or blue-black apples... that of course, aren't real.

quercusa 6y ago

I'd encourage you look at some of the heirloom varieties that you'll never find in a grocery store. There are fantastic old apples that aren't a good fit for commercial production but are awesome in the back yard (depending where you live). Check out Esopus Spitzenberg or Cox's Orange Pippin.

jdhn 6y ago
Is there a preferred place to buy these heirloom varieties of apples?
- quercusa 6y ago
  I bought some years ago from Raintree Nursery[0] and was very happy with them. Their selection seems smaller these days. Trees of Antiquity[1] seems to have a huge variety but I have no experience with them. [0] https://raintreenursery.com/collections/apple-trees https://raintreenursery.com/collections/apple-trees [1] https://www.treesofantiquity.com/collections/apple-trees https://www.treesofantiquity.com/collections/apple-trees (Earlier typo: Spitzenburg, not -berg)

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