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I find the flu argument pretty weak, but it ultimately boils down to a claim of demographic differences (that Sweden had more people at the beginning of the pan
by kybernetikos 6y ago
I find the flu argument pretty weak, but it ultimately boils down to a claim of demographic differences (that Sweden had more people at the beginning of the pandemic that were likely to die than neighbouring countries).
Belgium feels like a cherry picked example, having as it does a miserably poor record compared to its own neighbours, and being rather unlike the nordic countries in lots of other likely relevant ways - climate, population density, etc.
Perhaps a more likely demographic cause might be the age of the population in Sweden, which I believe does have a particularly old population.
The racial/skin colour angle is difficult to evaluate. There may be something to it, but there are so many potentially confounding factors - immigrant populations are unlike the native population in a number of ways. Some of the ways they are different are that they are overrepresented in high risk groups like front line medical workers or living in poorer quality accommodation or having more difficulty getting access to health care. If the primary cause that they are overrepresented in covid-19 deaths relates to any of those, then having a lower immigrant population may just redistribute the deaths rather than reduce them (the bottom socioeconomic 10% will likely be overrepresented in deaths, and that bottom 10% may feature more or fewer immigrants).
- beagle3 6y agoMy point is that it’s not as clear cut as “any way you slice the data”. Sweden’s immigrant population is not remotely like the US one. They are NOT over represented in healthcare work, AFAIK they are underrepresented (to a fault, of having almost no representation). They do live in lower quality housing, on average, but have access to nominally equivalent medical services (Sweden has socialized everything; once you are “in the system” you are entitled to everything, though rich people can buy some extras) Also, It’s a little disingenuous to say “Belgium is cherry picked” without extending a similar courtesy to Sweden. All in all, it’s too early to call winners and losers, and there are many ways to slice the data that don’t make Sweden look bad at all.