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Most of the U.S. government was born to steal land and facilitate genocide. That's just a fact. It's where we come from as Americans. We are all beneficiaries o

Most of the U.S. government was born to steal land and facilitate genocide. That's just a fact. It's where we come from as Americans. We are all beneficiaries of crimes against humanity. The government needs to change, no doubt about that. The government has public interfaces for change. We can change the government to make sure these interfaces are available to as many americans as possible. We could make them available to all, including our friends in Puerto Rico, just with a few signed pieces of paper. It's important for all of us to have goals and act in a way that is goal-oriented.

scarface74 6y ago
That’s not the goal of an electoral majority of the country. Because of the 2 Senator per state structure of the Senate, 40%+ of the Senate represents 25% of the population. The senate confirms both judges with lifetime appointments and cabinet members. We also have seen twice in the last 20 years where the President won while losing the popular vote. Also because of the media that generally ignored the poor and minorities before everyone had a video camera in their pocket, thanks to Big Tech, and a platform to stream it live without gatekeepers, again thanks to Big Tech. Even the people who would care weren’t informed. If you were White, middle class and above why wouldn’t you believe that police are always fair and trust the word of police? On a personal note, seeing how myself and friends who are people of color, gay, etc have been treated by Big Tech and comparing that to the government - yeah I trust Big Tech a lot more.
- jacobwilliamroy 6y ago
  Big tech made donald trump president and is current fueling white supremacist terrorism in america. I dont trust them at all.
  - stjohnswarts 6y ago
    Democrats had the same tools.
  - scarface74 6y ago
    White supremacy has been part of the US since it’s inception.
- jacobwilliamroy 6y ago
  Twitter facebook and youtube are tools for disinformation. They have created the new world disorder. Worse than any CNN NBC or FOX. It was bad before, but in big tech's quest to optimize "engagement" at the expense of everything else they have made everything so much worse. They don't give a shit.
  - scarface74 6y ago
    And there was no disinformation before Twitter, Facebook and YouTube that led to bad outcomes like lynching? https://www.poynter.org/maligned-in-black-white/ https://www.poynter.org/maligned-in-black-white/
    - jacobwilliamroy 6y ago
      Not like this. We are the targets of a massive, decentralized effort to create chaos through misinformation. It is very well-funded and organized. I have seen nor heard of nothing like this before. Even during the holocaust, the power to publish bullshit was concentrated in the hands of the few. Now I can distribute a message to millions in a matter of hours at basically no cost. These tools are publicly accessible to anyone on the network. The breakdown of truth and reality is real. With everyone locked inside for covid, we are more vulnerable to misinformation than we ever have been as a species.
      - scarface74 6y ago
        You haven’t seen it, because neither you nor anyone in your family has been affected. Your entire history education is probably misinformed if you attended a public school. Look up the “Lost Cause” version of events behind the Civil War. The government and the MSM have been much worse than any private corporation with respect to misinformation with much more deadly consequences than any private corporation. I’m not referring to just “the liberal media”.
        jacobwilliamroy 6y ago
        My family came to this country of our own free will in the early 90s, so we certainly missed a lot of the bullshit. You're ignoring how social media has decentralized the misinformation. Anyone can start posting and people operate on such a purely emotional level, that facts really don't matter. If I was working foreign intelligence, trying to destroy the United States, I would do exactly what qanon is doing. I've been watching that shitshow spiral out of control in slow motion for the past 4 years and social media was an integral part. The way algorithms funnel people into information bubbles. How they engage by showing people inflammatory things. There are people in your neighborhood right now who literally think democrats worship satan and eat babies for power (which is what nazis said about the jews btw). They didnt catch that virus by watching TV news, or reading the paper; they learned it on social media.
stjohnswarts 6y ago
You've drunk too much of the far left koolaide. The USA has done so much more than that. Name a country that has been around relatively intact for the past few hundred years that was also a major power than didn't engage in similar or much worse. I get tired of historic revisionism and seeing the past through and judging by the standards of today things that happened in the past. It's fine to see what was wrong with it, but it's academic dishonesty to say pass judgement for today's generation and future generations and say the USA is the ultimate evil like you are saying.
- jacobwilliamroy 6y ago
  Actually you're the one saying the U.S. is the ultimate evil. I'm just telling facts. Stop projecting and try to consider all sides with neutrality. You're self absorbed, overly sensitive and a bad listener. Facts don't care about your feelings. I'm not going to revise American history just because you feel ashamed or uncomfortable. I value truth. Maybe stop judging yourself for the crimes of the past. Maybe stop using American history as a stupid prop to make you feel good about yourself. At the end of the day, if you really want to ignore what happened, that just makes you ignorant. All that means is I know more about our country than you do. It means that when I say I fuckin love America, I actually mean it. Not like you, where you could only love this country if it was some safe-space-hugbox that didn't challenge your fragile ego.
- scarface74 6y ago
  This wasn’t hundreds of years ago. My still living parents grew up in the segregated south. Laws against miscegenation were still in effect 7 years before I was born. Laws against “fornication” weren’t struck down until the 80s. Today the “War on Crime/Drugs” is disproportionately applied to minorities. Today the US has 21% of all incarcerated people in the world.

scarface74 6y ago

That’s not the goal of an electoral majority of the country. Because of the 2 Senator per state structure of the Senate, 40%+ of the Senate represents 25% of the population. The senate confirms both judges with lifetime appointments and cabinet members. We also have seen twice in the last 20 years where the President won while losing the popular vote. Also because of the media that generally ignored the poor and minorities before everyone had a video camera in their pocket, thanks to Big Tech, and a platform to stream it live without gatekeepers, again thanks to Big Tech. Even the people who would care weren’t informed. If you were White, middle class and above why wouldn’t you believe that police are always fair and trust the word of police? On a personal note, seeing how myself and friends who are people of color, gay, etc have been treated by Big Tech and comparing that to the government - yeah I trust Big Tech a lot more.

jacobwilliamroy 6y ago
Big tech made donald trump president and is current fueling white supremacist terrorism in america. I dont trust them at all.
- stjohnswarts 6y ago
  Democrats had the same tools.
- scarface74 6y ago
  White supremacy has been part of the US since it’s inception.
jacobwilliamroy 6y ago
Twitter facebook and youtube are tools for disinformation. They have created the new world disorder. Worse than any CNN NBC or FOX. It was bad before, but in big tech's quest to optimize "engagement" at the expense of everything else they have made everything so much worse. They don't give a shit.
- scarface74 6y ago
  And there was no disinformation before Twitter, Facebook and YouTube that led to bad outcomes like lynching? https://www.poynter.org/maligned-in-black-white/ https://www.poynter.org/maligned-in-black-white/
  - jacobwilliamroy 6y ago
    Not like this. We are the targets of a massive, decentralized effort to create chaos through misinformation. It is very well-funded and organized. I have seen nor heard of nothing like this before. Even during the holocaust, the power to publish bullshit was concentrated in the hands of the few. Now I can distribute a message to millions in a matter of hours at basically no cost. These tools are publicly accessible to anyone on the network. The breakdown of truth and reality is real. With everyone locked inside for covid, we are more vulnerable to misinformation than we ever have been as a species.
    - scarface74 6y ago
      You haven’t seen it, because neither you nor anyone in your family has been affected. Your entire history education is probably misinformed if you attended a public school. Look up the “Lost Cause” version of events behind the Civil War. The government and the MSM have been much worse than any private corporation with respect to misinformation with much more deadly consequences than any private corporation. I’m not referring to just “the liberal media”.
      - jacobwilliamroy 6y ago
        My family came to this country of our own free will in the early 90s, so we certainly missed a lot of the bullshit. You're ignoring how social media has decentralized the misinformation. Anyone can start posting and people operate on such a purely emotional level, that facts really don't matter. If I was working foreign intelligence, trying to destroy the United States, I would do exactly what qanon is doing. I've been watching that shitshow spiral out of control in slow motion for the past 4 years and social media was an integral part. The way algorithms funnel people into information bubbles. How they engage by showing people inflammatory things. There are people in your neighborhood right now who literally think democrats worship satan and eat babies for power (which is what nazis said about the jews btw). They didnt catch that virus by watching TV news, or reading the paper; they learned it on social media.

stjohnswarts 6y ago

You've drunk too much of the far left koolaide. The USA has done so much more than that. Name a country that has been around relatively intact for the past few hundred years that was also a major power than didn't engage in similar or much worse. I get tired of historic revisionism and seeing the past through and judging by the standards of today things that happened in the past. It's fine to see what was wrong with it, but it's academic dishonesty to say pass judgement for today's generation and future generations and say the USA is the ultimate evil like you are saying.

jacobwilliamroy 6y ago
Actually you're the one saying the U.S. is the ultimate evil. I'm just telling facts. Stop projecting and try to consider all sides with neutrality. You're self absorbed, overly sensitive and a bad listener. Facts don't care about your feelings. I'm not going to revise American history just because you feel ashamed or uncomfortable. I value truth. Maybe stop judging yourself for the crimes of the past. Maybe stop using American history as a stupid prop to make you feel good about yourself. At the end of the day, if you really want to ignore what happened, that just makes you ignorant. All that means is I know more about our country than you do. It means that when I say I fuckin love America, I actually mean it. Not like you, where you could only love this country if it was some safe-space-hugbox that didn't challenge your fragile ego.
scarface74 6y ago
This wasn’t hundreds of years ago. My still living parents grew up in the segregated south. Laws against miscegenation were still in effect 7 years before I was born. Laws against “fornication” weren’t struck down until the 80s. Today the “War on Crime/Drugs” is disproportionately applied to minorities. Today the US has 21% of all incarcerated people in the world.